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ThomasFurman: April 12 2005
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Steve Cotter is a Knockout! Review Inside.
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Steve Cotter is a Knockout??
Actually Steve is not my type. I prefer busty blondes, but this is a review of his latest DVD. (By the way, BUY IT!)
Steve Cotter's Full Kontact Kettlebell's Two- Applied Strength.
I anxiously awaited viewing Steve Cotter's new DVD. His first DVD was very impressive and concise. He pioneered the ideas of positions of strength, and positions of compromise when performing martial based strength moves. His opening sequence would impress anyone, even hard core martial arts practitioners like myself. It would be a hard act to follow. Well,..guess what? Steve's NEW DVD IS WAY, WAY, BETTER.
It is hard to imagine anyone taking an internal martial art like Hsing I, applying the use of kettlebell technology, and coming up with a better DVD than Steve did. It is just that good. Steve reviews the components of Volume One, and demonstrates their combative applications in a demo that shows Steve has skills that work rather than just look pretty. Steve then expands on this base of movement mechanics into other variables such as waist and torso motion, and extensive legwork. Steve's leg strength is nothing short of remarkable throughout the program. Beginners should be forewarned to spend ample months practicing the moves from FullKontact One before even venturing into the eerie netherworld of FullKontact Two.
What was particularly impressive was the sequencing of the movements that Steve teaches. The root motion is taught. The exercise is then shown in the position of strength, then the position of compromise. Finally Steve shows martial applications of each of the exercises that use kettlebells.
Particularly interesting is the Duckwalking and Towel Swinging exercises. These are highly advanced exercises and will certainly give the viewer something to shoot for after some foundational training in the basic positions and movements that are taught as part of the FULLKONTACT curriculum.
I highly recommend this DVD for anyone involved in strength training. It is absolutely necessary to own for anyone in martial arts. If however, you are involved in hardcore strength work, extreme conditioning, combat tested martial arts, and Russian Kettlebells, it would be a crime not to buy it immediately. Steve Cotter is spreading his knowledge to the masses. I for one will be listening. This DVD is a SLAM DUNK.
Tom Furman www.physicalstrategies.com
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Steve Cotter: April 13 2005
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Tom,
Thank you kindly for your review. It is important to me that experienced martial artists such as yourself are able to immediately identify and apply the key principles that I introduce.
I am very glad that this DVD gets the points across clearly, and am honored to contribute useful information to the martial art and strength training communities.
Steve Cotter
http://www.dragondoor.com/dv025.html
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calane83: April 13 2005
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A KB question for the Kung-Fu comrades
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Comrades
I ran into an old kung-fu friend of mine the other day, and told him about the kettlebell training I have been doing recently. When I told him what a kettlebell was, and what it looked like, he said he had heard that some style of kung fu used a very similiar device of sorts for training their punches. (He said the device looked very similiar, but the weights were much less than we're accustomed to talking about here). Does anybody have an idea of what style of kung-fu he may have been referencing? My friend himself did not know the name. He had merely seen pictures and heard stories about this kind of thing. I'd really like to research this style if I could find out the name.
Thanks a lot for your help in advance.
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Steve Cotter: April 13 2005
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These are most commonly referred to as stone keys, stone padlocks, or even iron keys. Generally they have been associated with the art of Shaolin, but there are other gong fu stylists that have this training as a part of the system.
In my gong fu training, we would make our own in a mold, using cement and re-bar.
Recently, Atomic Athletic has introduced a stone padlock, and Matt Furey has been offering training with these.
Based on the Atomic keys that I have played with, and the few exercises that I have seen demonstrated with them, they are not quite the same as the stone keys that I was introduced to. They are made of the same materials, but the manner of use is much different.
The way I learned stone key, it is used as a tool to promote 'fa jing', or issuing energy. This is a manner in which the body learns how to contract in a very fast, wave-like vibration, as in a 1-inch punch or other short-range striking. The techniques that teach the fa jing is not how I see them being used by Furey. In fact the Atomic stone locks, while well made, are not balanced quite the same way, making spinning and catching more difficult.
My recommendation is to stick with KBs for your power training for MA. If you want to invest in a stone padlock to play around with, that's fine, but most of your time should be invested in KB training if you are looking for maximal transfer from your S&C training for MA.
Stone key training is unique, but if you are going to use them in a body-building/strength training fashion, you're better off with KB. Stone keys actually are intended for power training, not strength training, at least in my exposure to them.
Steve Cotter
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calane83: April 13 2005
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A KB question for the Kung-Fu comrades
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Comrades
I ran into an old kung-fu friend of mine the other day, and told him about the kettlebell training I have been doing recently. When I told him what a kettlebell was, and what it looked like, he said he had heard that some style of kung fu used a very similiar device of sorts for training their punches. (He said the device looked very similiar, but the weights were much less than we're accustomed to talking about here). Does anybody have an idea of what style of kung-fu he may have been referencing? My friend himself did not know the name. He had merely seen pictures and heard stories about this kind of thing. I'd really like to research this style if I could find out the name.
Thanks a lot for your help in advance.
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Steve Cotter: April 14 2005
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Chris,
Thank you for your question.
I don't know that this type of training is appropriate for instructional DVDs. I think 'one feel is worth 1,000 looks' (variation on the picture is worth 1,000 words). Mechanically, issuing energy can be described and understood, but transmission can only occur through physical contact. Sort of like telling the child about the dangers of electricity. Only through being shocked can one respect electricity's energy.
Also, I am nowhere near authoritative on Chen style tai chi, nor the manner in which energy is issued in that method. While Chen is a combination of long and short wave power, I have not yet cultivated the level of sophistication that a Chen master would have with fah jing. I would suggest that you try to arrange training with Ren Guang-yi in NYC. He is the authority on Chen style in the US.
As a general course of action, here are some things that will likely be included in your training:
Wu Chi/ stance keeping
tui shou
golden bell
soft body
tai chi pole
tai chi sword
These and other practice teach one to harness and direct the intention, and thus the energy. Pretty elementary really. Just takes 40 years of daily practice.
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C-Rivers: April 18 2005
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Help with a few names
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Yes it is cheesy to name drop, but I need a few. I am hoping to open a KB studio in St. Louis and I am meeting with the money people later this week. They will not understand why this is going to be big but they may see it has a future if they see athletes and stars already doing it in other parts of the country. Any persuasive names you have heard of might help to sway them. I know it sounds stupid but lets face it most thing are sold on who wears it, or drinks it.
Thanks for your help.
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Steve Cotter: April 19 2005
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Couple off the top of my head:
Donnie Thompson--#2 superheavy weight PL in the world (soon to be #1)
Eduardo Telles (my client) World Champion BJJ fighter (featured on cover story of March 2005 Grappler Magazine)
Kostya Tszyu--world Super lightweight Boxing champion
Rodrigo Medeiros (another client) --4x all-Brazil BJJ champion
Saulo Rubiero (Steve Maxwell client)--world champ in BJJ
Louie Simmons--Westside Barbell PL coach
Kip Puterbaugh--(my client) one of the top 15 PGA golf instructors
Dan John---US Masters record holder in Discuss
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John Du Cane: April 18 2005
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One extra thing from this RKC that pleased me personally...
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I always offer RKC participants a chance to attend my two Sunday evening qigong classes (which I make sure to still do, despite the cert.)
Given that they have undergone three full days of gruelling physical training and have little chance to eat before making the trek over to Mpls, I have low expectations on people taking me up on the offer.
However this time around a dozen folks did show up, including Frankie, KB Convention standout Samantha Young and her Mom, another genteleman named Pavel (!), Giuseppe from Italy, and Steve Cotter .
Thanks to all of you who made the effort -- I've always felt KBs and qigong complement each other perfectly and it looked like you were enjoying yourselves, despite what amounted to a fourteen hour training day!
As far as the actual RKC was concerned, I thought this was the best ever. I get a tremendous kick out of seeing so many high quality people so engaged together in this kind of training. It really has to be experienced to be believed.
And I am especially impressed by the folks dedicated enough to attend the training from abroad: this time we had participants from the UK, New Zealand, Italy, Canada, Mexico, and Slovenia.
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Steve Cotter: April 18 2005
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John,
Your ability to break down qigong methods into easily assimilated sections is a very unique skill.
I really appreciate the opportunity to have had the chance to study qigong with you.
I got a great deal out of the class. Thanks very much.
Anyone who has the chance to study from you ought to jump at it.
Thanks again,
Steve
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irondog: April 19 2005
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need advice
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Greetings all. M y name is Paul Alvarado, and I hail from San Antonio, TX. This is my first experience with a forum but hopefully I'll become a regular. I recently learned of Dragondoor and CST and both seem to offer some of what I am looking for. . My info is as follows. Age: 31, weight: 180 lbs, hight: 5ft.7in. In the past I have been involved in standard weight training and bodybuilding type exercises. I have always had a big interest in several martial arts and though I was never trained formally, a friend gave me some informal training when I was younger. (For the most part my phys. ed. has been self taught) My history with injuries is as follows: 1.) I have injured and re injured both shoulders on numerous occasions by way of dislocations which I relocated myself. Because of this I have retained some RC weakness in both shoulders, along with lost range of motion on my left. (Can’t hold a barbell clean due to tightness in joint.) 2.) I have also sprained my right ankle badly, which left it slightly thicker than the left and not quite as strong. (Foot hyper-extended into hole while running down hill about 1 yr. ago) 3.) My right knee suffered due to this (the ankle sprain incident) and due to the bad practice of forcing knees out while turning toes slightly in during the horse stance when younger. It developed an imbalance that I can feel as pressure just below my kneecap on the outer edge where the shin inserts, and on the large inner hamstring tendon directly opposite. 4. Also I acquired a recurring neck impingement. (While sleeping of all things)(When aggravated won't let me move head laterally or turn to left) It seems that my body has a very strong memory and develops grooves and patterns of movement very quickly. (Sometimes for the worst)(Lately I have felt quite injury prone) Due to all of this I have found it difficult to begin a weight training or other type of program. As for my goals after reclaiming my once natural balanced strength and flexibility, they are as follows: 1.) I want to develop the type of functional strength old strongmen had. 2.) I wish to develop the flexibility of motion and balance displayed by most acrobats. 3.) I have found A Bujinkan school in town and desire to make this my art. (Along with strength) Due to my current financial situation it will be some time before I can afford to buy any of your instructional resources, but any advice would be greatly appreciated. Also would you please be so kind as to inform me of what best to start with in order to rehab myself, and what to avoid given my current physical limitations. Also what to buy once I can afford it. (Hopefully soon) Any feedback and informative links would also be greatly appreciated. Many thanks and best wishes to all in the community.
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Steve Cotter: April 19 2005
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Irondog,
Brett is too humble to say so, but one of the best things you can do is invest in Brett's forthcoming KB Basics DVD. You still have time to save up for it--it's not available yet but will be here on this website in about a month--keep checking back.
There are many talented and knowledgble trainers that can help you and give guidance. However, Brett is one of the most 'balanced' trainers in the industry, in terms of a blend of practical and theoretical experience and knowledge .
His new DVD is the best I have seen to date as far as breaking down fundamentals into easily understood components and progressions.
You won't need a bunch of tools or programs to start with. What you will need is something that is simple and to the point, that will address common mistakes and put you on the path to smart training.
No, I'm not Brett's PR agent :-), but I do think that you should study the methods he can offer, which will address your main concerns at this stage. Because of the types of injuries you describe, you really need to start off with simple and safe training applications--Brett's the man for that.
Good luck in your new training life.
Steve Cotter
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DylanThomas,RKC: April 26 2005
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Lisa Shaffer's KB Workbook, Kick Ass!
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I was taking a nap when my Lady,Gina came in and told me I had some mail from Texas, it was an advanced copy of Lisa Shaffer's KB Workbook.
I've been waiting for it, so I got up ,made some coffee and sat down with it and started to check it out.
This thing is first class all the way,great pictures,excellent discriptions,loads of programs and proffessional layout speaks well of Lisa's KB knowledge.
She makes no bloated,off the wall claims,she don't have to.It's just her story and exp. gained as a pro KB instructor.
Lisa's unique perspective,based on her exp. on KB training during and after pregnancy, intrested Gina quite a bit. (we're expecting our 2 nd child in early Sept.)
Gina really never got into KBs,even with me slinging them around and her tripping over them in the house,but seeing Lisa in the book and the fact that Lisa looks so great (after 5 months from her 3rd child-Wow!) in the pictures got her interested in K'belling herself. I guess she always looked at it as this hardcore ,martial thing her crazy man and his buddies did,not something that she should do.
This is a great product and is well worth it for any gender K'beller.
I am going to buy a copy when it goes on sale to give to one of my client's pregnant wife.
I am suggesting this book to all my clients and fellow K'bellers.
Great job Lisa,I always thought you had it together and your a great friend,but after this I am double glad we are going to be teaming up on projects in the future.
Swing on Sister!
Dylan
http://martialstrength@yahoo.com
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Steve Cotter: April 26 2005
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You did an amazing job with the workbook. It shows that you put in a LOT of time.
It is an excellent resource! Congratulations.
Steve
http://www.fullkontact.com/
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KB2: April 26 2005
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Steve's Cotter's new DVD
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Last night, I watched Steve's new DVD that I picked up at the RKC certification. Wow! If anyone ever decides to make a Dragonball Z movie, Steve would be the perfect choice for Goku :-) The guy, as many at the RKC certification witnessed, is an athletic phenom. Steve takes base k-bell movements and combines them with some fantastic footwork, agility and flexibility drills. They target the exact physical attributes a serious combat athlete needs. He also does a good job of presenting the information in a logical sequence that helps you link it all together and understand the base principle he is trying to get across. The exercises are even linked to different combat applications to show how they carry over. Good stuff!
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Steve Cotter: April 26 2005
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But I take it Goku is pretty cool? :-)
It was great to see you Ken. You have improved 300% in your KB technique and fitness since the September workshop.
Thanks very much for the review and I'm glad you are using the Full KOntact training to improve your martial arts.
Steve
http://www.fullkontact.com/
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Frankie: April 26 2005
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Got my white belt today...
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at Carlos Machado's BJJ academy. It is really nice to be in a gi (and white belt) in a formal MA again. Defintely has a different feel to it than other schools I have been in (Korean, Okinawan, Japanese). They have an interesting approach towards teaching. As all you instructors know, it is a real privilege to be the student.
I will continue to get random training in MMA from Kurt Pitman, RKC to keep my strikes up and learn no gi SW. It's just cool to be MA training again. Now I gotta change my strength training.
Frankie
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Steve Cotter: April 26 2005
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I mean that since he is much bigger, stronger and more skillful than you, any opportunity you have to train hard with him will do at least as much for your 'core strength' as any amount or type of lifting.
Grappling with an animal is all the push/pull one ever needs.
If you've gone some hard 6 min rounds with a tough grappler, you know what I'm saying. You don't usually leave feeling like lifting weights immediately after. If you do, then it is time to upgrade the training partners :-)
I'm not tired to hear about how the Serving Tea Cups exercises is helping you. I think that's great and validates my decision to keep those exercises as a part of my system and to utilize as an efficient teaching tool.
For the deep bone bruise, you need some hit limiment. As a MA, you should know that part of the 'art' is the healing component. Is there a Chinatown in Dallas? If so, I will suggest some things to expediate your healing.
Thanks for your comments on the site.
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Frankie: April 26 2005
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Got my white belt today...
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at Carlos Machado's BJJ academy. It is really nice to be in a gi (and white belt) in a formal MA again. Defintely has a different feel to it than other schools I have been in (Korean, Okinawan, Japanese). They have an interesting approach towards teaching. As all you instructors know, it is a real privilege to be the student.
I will continue to get random training in MMA from Kurt Pitman, RKC to keep my strikes up and learn no gi SW. It's just cool to be MA training again. Now I gotta change my strength training.
Frankie
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Steve Cotter: April 26 2005
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Frankie,
That is great. It's a incredible art and the precision of the techniques will fit well with your teaching style.
Training with Kurt IS changing your ST, so I think you've got your bases covered--have fun!
Steve
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Makena White: April 26 2005
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Full KONTACT Kettlebells--putting it together?
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For Steve and all who have taken a hard look at the first two volumes, I have a question I would like to direct to you. How do you see these new exercises being put together into a training regimen? Obviously, everyone has different needs and can adapt the material to their own training requirements--but I'd like to see how others are putting the exercises together before I try to create a regime myself. How are you putting your Full KOntact training together?
Aloha!
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Steve Cotter: April 26 2005
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Hi Makena,
I developed the Full KOntact system for the purpose of addressing various needs:
--introduce unique drills for 3-dimensional restistance training
--for beginner's to develop body and spatial awareness
--for advanced to expand beyond ROM limitations and other skill plateaus
--to augment specific skill training for martial arts
--develop joint receptivity to various torsion forces---key for contact athletics of all types
--to serve as a growing resource for holistic training information
The program specifically allows for each and every exercise to be interchangeable with one another as well as other modes.
Here is one example of how to put things together:
PURPOSE: to augment martial arts/fight training with a well rounded, stream-lined S&C program. I.E. to receive a direct improvement in sparring as a result of the S&C program; an increase in strength and endurance with no detriment to flow in my sparring
Choose 1 from Each Section:
Core Pull:
-BB DL
-1 arm Heavy KB Swing
-Weighted Chins/Towel Chins
Core Press:
-KB TGU
-Double KB MP
-BB BP
Stance/Leg Emphasis Full KOntact:
-Dragon Twist (position of strength)
-Catch and Sweep
-Multi-level Slipping (drop sets)
Mid-section Emphasis Full KOntact:
-Towel Swings-mid basin
-Hook Swings
-Rotations with High Knee
Coordination/Skill Emphasis Full KOntact:
-Creepdown and Press
-Duck Walk and Press
-Bagua Circular Stepping (with Hook Swings, in Position of Extrem compromise, etc)
Do 5-15 reps of each. Start with one cycle, work up to 3-5. Resistance level and rest interval can be increased or decreased according to emphasis and level.
In your case Makena, you need more endurance to go with your power. So you should keep the reps low in the 5-10 range, but with minimal rest between exercises. Rest 2-3 minutes and repeat, circuit style.
Things like Dragon Twisting and Bagua Circular stepping should be thoroughly trained with BW only before progressing to additional resistance. This is especially important for large-framed individuals.
These programs can very easily be modified. For example, for a well-rounded approach to your S&C and athleticism, you can focus on one area of emphasis per day.
For example:
Monday: Core Pulls
Tuesday: Full KOntact midsection
Wednesday: Core Pressing
Thursday: Full KOntact Leg
Friday: Full KOntact Skill training
In this format you would take 3-5 exercises for each group and focus on each training focus 1 time per week. This would be addition to your regular MA sparring and skill training.
Adding in a few minutes of simple qigong breathing at the beginning and end along with a few specialized joint mobility movements, such as Serving Tea Cups (these will be on a forthcoming DVD) or BW Side-to-Side Creepdown, will yield a powerful and balanced curriculum.
There are some sample training modules on my website that also will give you some more ideas of how to put the Full KOntact exercises together in practical and effective combinations.
Steve
http://www.fullkontact.com/s_modules.html
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Makena White: April 26 2005
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Full KONTACT Kettlebells--putting it together?
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For Steve and all who have taken a hard look at the first two volumes, I have a question I would like to direct to you. How do you see these new exercises being put together into a training regimen? Obviously, everyone has different needs and can adapt the material to their own training requirements--but I'd like to see how others are putting the exercises together before I try to create a regime myself. How are you putting your Full KOntact training together?
Aloha!
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Steve Cotter: April 27 2005
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Hi Frankie,
Thanks for your feedback. Based on what you tell me here, it is only natural that I must expand the information on the site as you suggest.
Yes, there is a lot of variety, but the approach is still along the lines of the 3-5 exercises, simple, minimal, specific that you are used to. They just demands greater coordination and ROM. It is by doing different things at times that develops us further as athletes.
Thanks again,
Steve
http://www.fullkontact.com/
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Dean Jolly: April 28 2005
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Hey SteveCotter I can't access your site...
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Neither could my web designer, maybe it's just a New Zealand thing?
Please give me the address again, I'll keep trying.
Regards Dean Jolly
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Steve Cotter: April 28 2005
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Dean,
It was great to meet you. Please send me an email when you get a chance:
steve@fullkontact.com
I look forward to catching up with you. Congrats on your outstanding performance at the RKC course.
Steve
http://www.fullkontact.com/
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