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Question

bobptz: May 05 2006 

Is this training to failure? 

I do the PTP-Bear wo. I make sure I maintain good form in the first 2 strength sets. I am not sure if I am doing right the other (bear sets). Tyically I will do in Bench Press: 5x83 kgr 5x78 kgr 5x73 kgr 5x73 kgr 5x73 kgr 4x73 kgr 4x68 kgr In the last 2 sets I can do 4x73 and then leave the bar, because I feel I cannot complete the last (5th) rep. Then I lower the weight even more. I try 4x68 kgr in good form and I know I cannot complete the 5th rep, so I rest the bar. Is this correct? Or maybe my workout should have only been: 5x83 kgr 5x78 kgr 5x73 kgr 5x73 kgr 5x73 kgr  

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 05 2006 

failure is an enginering term used to describe structural breakdown. A steel beam support on a bridge, for example, has a certain amount of weight it can sustain before 'failing' or collapsing. In exercise, the term is used to describe the muscles inability to complete another repitition. During muscular work, the available muscle fibers get used up until the required task can no longer be completed. Once this occurs, the resistence must be lowered for any more work to take place. Each contraction of the muscle against a resistence uses a certain percentage of the available muscle fiber.The heavier the load, the greater the ammount of fiber is recruited. Most people can not recruit more than 25 to 30 % of their available muscle fibers. The ammount of fiber that can be recruited to lift a heavy weight at any given time is set by the nervous system. It is inborn for the most part, but there is some evidence that it can be improved upon by proper training. The extent to which one exhausts the muscle fibers is called inroading. Some body builders claim that training to complete muscular failure will turn on the growth mechanism in the body and build muscle size more rapidly than non-failure training. Their are two basic camps for body building training- high intensity (HIT) who train to muscular failure and the volume group who train multiple sets of multiple exercises and raely train to failure.Training to failure is very demanding and requires the body to take a lot of rest between workouts.Because HIT is so demanding, the sets and exercises must be limited. Strength athletes, who are not interested in muscular size, find that they can avoid training to failure and increase strength levels by manipulating nervous system adaptation. People in the the later category treat strength as a skill, use low reps and very heavy weight. Steve Maxwell

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Question

KettleOne: May 08 2006 

? On Overtraining 

Right now I'm doing kettlebells about 3x a week. Using programs from the Encylopedia of Kettlebell Lifting. Would I be overtraining if I spent 10 minutes in the morning with them, doing one of the workouts Jeff Martone suggests when you are low on time? The 10 minute squat thrust, snatch, swing clean, program...etc. Basically I just want to get up in the morning and do somthing to spike my metabolism... but I'm not going to have enough time to seriously hit the bells like I would in the afternoon. 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 08 2006 

When the subject of over training comes up, it tends to elicit a wide and varied response. Some claim it is all in ones head and do not even acknowledge it's existence. Many in this camp use performance enhancing drugs and are genetic freaks to boot. Others seem to believe that one can become over trained from the slightest bit of hard work. The reality is that it is an individual matter and there is a wide difference in tolerances to heavy exertion. As a rule, begginners can train with much more frequency than veterans without over training. This is because begginners do not have the muscular capabilities that experienced trainees do. The bigger, stronger veteran lifter can push himself systemically into a much deeper level of exhaustion than say a neophyte. The bigginers strength levels do not cause the systemic fatigue that heavier loads do. Age is a factor as well. It is well documented that ones recoverability from heavy exercise is compromised with age; older guys take longer to recover. Ones ability to recover from exercise is a genetic trait and is set at the biologic level. One can enhance recovery a bit with restoration techniques, but for the most part it is set at the cellular level and cannot be improved much. The sign posts of over training are elevated morning pulse, heavy legs, sleeplessness or over sleep, irritability, loss of appetite or increase in appetite, rapid weight loss or gain, lowered performance level, frequent colds or cold like symptoms, chronic illness and lack of sex drive. Keep these things in mind to gage your level of over training. Steve Maxwell

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Question

smet: May 08 2006 

Question for Steve Maxwell 

Steve, do you have a reference for the pulse test you posted recently? I am just a little sceptical about number four, it is beats above the average that determine if you overtrain. There is a great deal of variation in resting heart rate among individuals, and four heart beats may well be within two standard deviations of daily observations. Another point: four is more significant aberration if your average HR is, say, forty, and much less so if the average is seventy or eighty. The fact that it was developed by eastern europeans is nice but not necessarily credible: they did a lot of stupid things as well. Anyway, I would be interested to see a reference. 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 09 2006 

The pulse test is only a guide. Even medical people will tell you that elevated pulse is an indicator of stress. Don't get to hung up on the exact numbers. Know this though, every time I chose to ignore elevated pulse and push myself through a workout anyway, I always suffered. Usually by getting a cold or just being exhausted later. I'm sure there is a wide level of variance among individuals. But if ones pulse is elevated, it is defineatly a warning sign to ease up. I have a hard time easing up and knowing when to back off, so this simple test has been invaluable to me. I agree that 'eastern european' means nothing- could be great or really dumb. Just have to experiment. Steve Maxwell

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Question

Shawn M: May 09 2006 

Question about Joints GRinding on Joint Mobility drills...is this bad?? 

In doing top bottom elbow circles from Warrior Wellness I get very loud grinding in my shoulder (the "bad" one) It is not really painful but there is a little spot during the grid range of motion that feels like a rubbing. In doing these circles am I just damaging that spot more or will the increase in circulation of nutrients out weight any potential damage done by grinding in this range of motion Hope this makes sense, thank you for your help/advice 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 09 2006 

For exercise in general and joint mobility specifically, use a 10 point pain scale. If 10 equals the worst pain you have ever felt, then do not allow the pain level to go above a manageable 3. I'm not talking about the pain of muscular exertion, burning lungs or fatiguing muscles. I am talking about pain in the joints. Driving through pain when doing joint mobility or flexibility work usually results in more residual tension, not less. The idea of joiont mobility is to make the movem,ents effortless. If you are feeling jopint pain above a level 3, then back off as you are harming yourself. Cracking, clicking etc. is fine as long as there is no accompaning pain. Steve Maxwell

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Question

dean11: May 09 2006 

? about Steve Maxwell warmup drills from Dan John article 

In his article, Dan John talked about the "Steve M Three" Drill for warming up. The three drills were 1) Halo Drill (2-handed KB circles around head) 2) Boot Strap Squats and 3) Windmills. I understood how to do the last two but was a little unsure about the Halo Drill. What is this drill supose to look like? Any help is appreciated. Thanks 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 09 2006 

The exercise works the shoulders, elbows, upper back and core. Start by holding a kettlebell or barbell plate in front of your face, just above your chest. Slowly circle the bell around your head, ear level, while flaring the elbows out. Try to make smooth, tight circles and keep the bell close. Go for time or reps in one direction, then reverse the direction. I include this outstanding weighted mobility/conditioner as a warmup in every workout. Steve Maxwell

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Question

collegePTP: May 12 2006 

A question regarding Mr. Maxwell's pulse test 

does the pulse test and subsequent easy days by a high reading apply to someone trying to achieve hypertrophy? meaning that an occasional/planned overreaching/overtrained state is not a bad thing as long as every 4th week is a back off week? any opinions or knowledge is greatly appreciated and thank you in advance 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 12 2006 

In order for the body to grow and become bigger, plenty of recuperation is required. Once you have stimulated the body with the right amount of exercise, then food and rest will allow over-compensation to occur(increases in physical capacity). If the exrecise is to severe or not hard enough, little will be accomplished. In the case of to hard the body will struggle to get back to where it was prior to the workout. If the exercise is to submaximal, then the body has no reason to over compensate and get bigger or stronger. There are three main components, volume, intensity and rest. If any of the three are compromised or imbalanced, then optimal results will not be produced. The pulse test is a guide for determining whether the body has recovered and is truly rested. Elevated pulse is a bio marker of systemic fatigue. The system is not recovered, which means that muscular growth or strength increases are not going to occur until the system is allowed to fully recover. Pushing yourself at this time is not wise if you want to produce muscular growth as you stated in your post. Basically having an elevated pulse levels is an indication that you are not recuperated from the previous workout,so does it make sense to go out and work more? I think not. Steve Maxwell

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Question

deadlover: May 13 2006 

My Dad having neck pain 

My Dad is experiencing neck strain when doing one arm rows and curls after bench pressing during circuit training. He is over 50. He has been working out for quite a while but has had some problems with his joints and strained muscles. He says that the strain goes from the vertebrae right at the base of his neck to his shoulder. He had to stop doing overhead presses because of similar strains. He has been doing many of the super joints drills for his shoulders. Does he need to focus on stretching and technique or is he going to need to adjust his workouts? Thanks, Comrades. David  

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 13 2006 

I am 53 and have been training since I was 12 years old. Almost all neck and upper spine pain is the result of residual muscle tension. One of the culprits is the bench press itself. Your Dad is in all likelyhood creating tremendous tension in his traps and neck by unconsciously bracing against the bench with his head and neck. He doesn't feel it during the bench press, but afterward when doing the other exercises. I would stop benching for a while and perform dips or weighted push ups instead. He also should do neck mobility drills during the workouts as an active rest. Steve Maxwell

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Question

Steve Wedan: May 13 2006 

3/1 Rotation and Pavel's Switch-off 

Got a question for anyone who's in the know. I'm acquainted with the notion of cycling up over 3 weeks and then cutting back on the 4th. I also know about Pavel's recommendation of alternating 2 weeks of PTP with 2 weeks of KB cardio work for balanced strength/cardio gains. But has anyone combined the two approaches? If so, how did you do it? Two weeks of cycling up PTP, then 1 week of intense KB work, followed by 1 week of not-so-intense KB work? I can make my own guesses, but I'd like to hear from anyone who's actually done this. Thanks in advance, Steve 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 15 2006 

I personally found that if I went two weeks without doing swings or snatches that I would get really sore, especially in my hamstrings, back and glutes. It wasn't that my work capacity went down, but I did get delayed onset muscle soreness tha made my jiujitsu training somewhat compromised. I settled on doing strength and endurance in the same week (ala Clarence Bass) or even the same workout. Because I do my jiujitsu training 4 to 5 days per week, I had to adjust my volume of strength/conditioning down. I found two weekly workouts to be ideal, with one being strength oriented and the other based on the high rep quick lifts. I have also found good results from working on pure strength first and then using a high rep endurance movement last as a finisher. For example, heavy kettlebell presses alternated with weighted pullups. As a finisher, 10 minutes of swings done using the interval training method; 15 seconds work with 15 seconds rest (1:1 work/rest ratio). That's just one example. Of course, I do joint mobility daily, alternating standing work one day with mat work the next and then I teach jiujitsu and spar with my students. So I have to watch the over training. If I didn't do the grappling, I would probaly opt for three weekly weight workouts. Steve Maxwell

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Question

bobptz: May 14 2006 

PTP-Bear did not work for me. Why? 

I started PTP-BEAR midle of November 2005. I did not do it strictly by the book. ie I also did 20 rep squat, I also tried to alternate the presses with BenchPress, Dips, Military press, ChinUps. (it is all in my training log) The results are redicilous. I did manage to increase my 20 rep squat from 80 kgrs to 95 kgrs. This seems to be my only improvement. And it is not PTP. My DL seemed to improve, but this is very natural, since I never DeadLifted before. I rapidly went up to 125 kgrs (5 reps) in December 2005. I never made it past that. My chinups are exactly the same as they were 5 months ago. My bices are 39 cm. The same it was before I started PTP. And they were 41 cm last year! I am completely lost here. Last year I could Bench Press 110 kgr (1RM). Now I am afraid to try even with 100 kgr. I have a lot of faith in PTP. I helped newbies develop bodies rapidly with sets of 5. Why can't I help myself? I started serious working out with weights 3 years ago and had great improvements in the first 2 years. This last one was the most counterproductive. I switched to PTP on November when I saw I was stuck with my old BB methods. I was not the most dedicated person this year. I used to go out a lot, stay up until late (4-5:00 am) up until February. I was much beter afterwards. I eat VERY healthy. I did gain 3-4 kgrs since September, so I did eat enough. I know it is very difficult to diagnose a problem over the net. If I look elsewhere for advice they will laugh at the system I followed and they will direct me to the old methods. Bob  

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 15 2006 

You mixed two programs together and caused 'body confusion'. The 20 rep squat should be done alone as party of a wieght gain cycle for several months. Check out "Super Squats" by Randal Strossen. Then the PTP Bear program would be a good follow up for the next several months or the classic 5x5 program (five exercises done for 5 sets twice weekly). In 1970, I went from 156 lbs. to 205 lbs. following the exact program above. On my last workout during the 20 rep squat program I did 21 reps with 305 lbs. below parallel squats. I also did 15 reps with 250 lbs. in the stiff legged deadlift with the bar going below my feet (stood on a special platform). The program works if you work hard and eat plenty of food. I was drinking a gallon of raw milk per day in addition to my regular meals. Steve Maxwell

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Question

Magus: May 14 2006 

CRAC Stretching questions and PNF discussion 

Hi, I've got the Stretching for Strengthening DVD from the people at bodyessence.ca. On the DVD it says the CRAC method is the most effective method for liberating ROM yet I see little talk of this method here or anywhere else. I have not tried this technique but I could imagine it hard to perform as it is hard to contract muscles in their shortened state. Has anyone experience with CRAC PNF stretching? Here's a description: http://www.cmcrossroads.com/bradapp/docs/rec/stretching/stretching_4.html#IDX106 Also on the DVD it says that only around a 30% contraction is needed in a stretch. Apparently the is the "Poliquin method" or something like that. I cannot see anyone saying this elsewhere so it seems pretty unreliable. Any ideas? ,Joe

http://www.cmcrossroads.com/bradapp/docs/rec/stretching/stretching_4.html#I 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 15 2006 

I have had considerable experience with various stretching protocols. Being invovled in a martial art (BJJ) that requires a fairly high degree of flexibility has led me to search for ways to improve ROM for jiujitsu fighters. I train my students with a lot of mobility drills. I have a saying regarding range of motion training,"It is better to learn to put yourself there because someone is going to put you there whether you want them to or not". In a nut shell, mobility is more important than flexibility. Mobility is defined as an active form of flexibility where the body is voluntarily moved into the full range with strength.Special breathing techniques are used to release tension and allow the body to move more deeply into full ROM. Another words, if you can't get there under your own muscle power then any extra range of motion is useless. The difference between your passive flexibility and your mobility is the percent chance of you getting injured. It has been my experience that the most flexible students are the most frequently injured. This is because they do not have strength in the extreme ranges. Many people can do passive hamstring stretches for example and get way down past their toes. But when they must raise the leg with muscle power, their hamstring isn't able to let go and the range is greatly compromized. In grappling it is better to be a bit tight than to loose. Unless you are a dancer, gymnast, circus proformer or in a martial art that requires high kicks, spending a lot of time on extreme flexibility is a waste of that time. If you really need to get extremely flexible, then PNF is the way to go. The most important thing is freeing the body of tension through breath control. Pavel has the best book on the market in that regard. Steve Maxwell

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Question

cannavaro: May 16 2006 

Getting into the lotus position 

Can anyone suggest which stretches would help me get into the lotus position? I find it difficult to cross the legs and to sit up straight properly in the position. I have RIS and understand the principles of CR but I just wanted to know the quickest route from A to B. Thanks in advance 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 16 2006 

Don't force it. I have seen many injured knees as a result of trying to force the lotus (cross legged seated position). The pidgeon stretch is one of the important hip and tensor facia openers for the lotus. All pressure should be felt only in the hips and outer thighs. Back off if any pressure is felt in the knees. Slowly accustom the body to the lotus. Be patient and breathe into the move. Steve Maxwell

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Question

NekidWarriorPaul: May 20 2006 

KB Combos vs. Single Excercise 

Ive been seeing KB Combos popping up more in discussions and articles, or maybe just started noticing them. Ive only seen peoples combos but nothing on what exactly are the benifits as opposed to doing seperate excercises. Ive been looking for new routines and variations of excercises and thought this might be something fun to check out. Any thoughts or links? 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 20 2006 

A complex or combo is combining two or more exercises together. A classic example is the burpee (aka 8 count bodybuilders) where a squat thrust is combined with a pushup. Another classic is the continuous clean and press. Another is the full front squat to press overhead (aka thrusters). Combinations like this cover the entire musculature and involve the entire body structure. Combos produce systemic fatigue as oppossed to local muscle fatigue that single exercises produce. The cardio vascular system becomes heavily taxed because of the huge amount of muscle mass involved. Combos create a certain co-ordination and flow. One also learns how to breath more efficiently and how to learn to breath during movement. Many do not breath correctly during heavy exertion and pre-maturely fatigue. Combos expose weakness in the breathing patterns. Combos also spike HGH levels, much like sprint protocols do. All in all, combos are a great way to maximize ones training time and give you a big bang for the buck. Steve Maxwell

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Question

Josef: May 22 2006 

Program help, please. 

I have been keeping a log of my training for the past two months and have seen satisfying results. I perform the workouts listening to an MP3 player. beginning a new set at the start of a song. A sample workout would go: overhead lift with right hand, pistol with right leg, next song: pull-ups, next song: overhead lift left hand, pistol left leg, next song: pull-ups. I continue this for the given sets. But I was wondering if anybody could tell me a good way to fit deadlifts and Janda sit-ups into it. I was thinking that it might be best to either hold off on the deadlifts until I've reached my pistol goals or alternate pistol and deadlift sets, but I was wondering if anybody had a better idea. As far as abdominal training, I was thinking to start with two days a week and gradually build to 5x5 the same way as the rest over the course of three months and increasing it to 3 days the next three month cycle, building up to 5 days. I will cycle back down to two but add weight at the start of next year. But now my question is, does anybody think it would be best to save the Jandas for the end of the workout or keep it in the rotation, given its relatively low volume. 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 22 2006 

Instead of regular deadlift sets alternated with sets of pistols, try one of my favorite combinations; single leg deadlifts imediately followed by pistols. The two movements compliment each other beautifully, are terrifically athletic and stays with the unilateral training theme that the pistols provide. The Janda situps should definitely be placed last in the workout sequence. Steve Maxwell

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Question

pull_man54: May 22 2006 

High Rep TBDL Question 

I can now do 150% bw for 2 reps. Would like to do 150% bw for 10 reps. Directives would be greatly appreciated.  

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 22 2006 

Since you are working at a near maximum deadlift weight, but want increased numbers, I suggest dropping the weight by 20% and working in sets of 5 to 6 reps. Start with a weight that you can do for 5 reps. Work four sets of 5 with a minute rest between. Over the course of several weeks, rest less and cut the rest time( by 5 seconds) between the first two sets. Every workout, cut 5 seconds off your rest. When you can do the original 5 rep weight for 10 reps, bump the weight back up. At that point go back to a minute rest between the first two sets and start the process all over again. Soon you will be doing your old two rep max for ten! Steve Maxwell

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Question

Bleedthrough: May 22 2006 

Pull-up to chin-up carryover? 

Just wondering what others've found with this... I only do pull-ups, but my biceps are lagging, so I figured switching to chin-ups might be the answer. I'm about to go on my first run through the 5x5, and I figured chin-ups and pull-ups are too similar to do the both of them- correct me if I'm wrong. Would it be alright to alternate grips between sets, though? (pulls/chins/pulls/chins/commando), or similar? Or just pulls/chins/pulls/chins/pulls, and the opposite the next day, perhaps. Anyway. If I switch to just chin-ups, how much is my pull-up performance likely to suffeR? Thanks, - Bleedthrough. 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 22 2006 

Although the prime mover in chinups and pullups are the lats, the arms are always the weak link. This is because the arms, primarily the biceps and gripping muscles, are much smaller and weaker than the large powerful upper back. The arm and grip will always give out first. In the hierarchy of pulling, a supinated grip (palms facing) is the strongest arm position. The nuetral grip is the next strongest (palms facing each other, thumbs toward the chest). The pronated (palms facing away) is the weakest grip. When the palms are facing away, the weak link (the biceps) is further weakened beacause the biceps cannot be fully activated since their primary function is supination. The origin of the pullup was for military training to simulate the pulling necessary for climbing over a wall, fence or side of a ship. For body building purposes, the chinup is superior because it uses the biceps in a more efficient way, allows one to pull more weight and involves more muscle mass. This is not to denigrate the pullup which is a excellent exercise for building functional real world pulling strength. For arm building, you can't go wrong with heavy weighted chinups. One way to train all three grips is to do two sets of pullups (hardest) with two sets of nuetral grip pullups (slightly easier) and finish with two sets of chinups (easiest). In this manner, you work all of the grips for a very complete upper body pulling program. You could also do two sets of body weight rows and strengthen that palne of motion as well. Steve Maxwell

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Question

RyanA: May 26 2006 

Questions about Naked Warrior Based Program 

My program recently has been based on the naked warrior. Initially I was doing pistols and presses with the 24kg kb. I have recently switched to the one-arm push up using a kb for support (something I got from one of Steve Maxwell's posts). After searching through posts related to the Naked Warrior I found a post by Blarg mentioning throwing pull-ups into the GTG scheme so I am going to start that today. It will look like this: pistol, assissted one-arm push up, and pull-up. I feel like I am missing out on some conditioning so I am going to throw two days a week of high rep snatches, swings, and cleans with the 16kg and/or 24kg kettlebell (I might just do Reeve's escalating density training with snatches for the 24kg bell). My questions are the following: 1. I initially started gtg'ing the press with the 24kg. I can max out with 2-3 per arm. Since I have access to the kb would I be better served going back to the press or really putting in the time for the one arm push up? 2. For my high rep kb days should I only do the kb routine or should I mix it in? If I can mix it in is there a specific order for when I should do them, i.e., do the high rep kb exercises at the end of the day when I am done the Naked Warrior stuff? 3. Finally, is there anything I missed, or is there anything you would suggest after looking at my training log? My goals are to get stronger, especially on the pistol and pull-up. And to improve my conditioning leaning out a bit. I will be relocating soon to Santa Cruz and am hoping to take up BJJ as soon as my financial situation allows it. So I guess part of my training is geared towards setting up a good founation for that. Thanks. 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 26 2006 

You can certainly mix and match the naked warrior protocols with kettlebell conditioning.These are some of my favorite style workouts. I would suggest alternating the kettlebell press with the one arm pushup every other workout. On the over head press day, do pullups. On the OAP day, do a body weight row or kettlebell row as a compensatory movement. Pistols could be done each workout. Finish one workout with interval kettlebell swings, 15 sec.work/ 15 sec. rest. The alternate day, do kettlebell snatches ala SS snatch test (10 minutes as many as possible). End each session with some abdominal work such as Janda situps. Work out every other day alternating between the A and B routines. This type of work is excellent for grapplers and will help you meet your goals. Steve Maxwell

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Question

saintm: May 31 2006 

A late commentary on Hughes VS Gracie, if I may..... 

I think Royce should have gotten better at hand striking during his training. They obviously are both great technicians, but It really seemed that once it went to the ground, Hughes' strength gave him so much of an edge over Royce. Once that armbar set in, it really became more about Royce taking puishment then about an even fight, and throwing all those high kicks without the real intent of landing them or following though with a shoot just gave Hughes time to plan on venting some sort of frustrated wrath on the guy. I figured Hughes was gonna win, but I really expected a prolonged battle on the ground, leading to a decisin for the aggresor. Either way, I think they are both great warriors. Just my $0.02 

Answer

Steve Maxwell: May 31 2006 

I know the Gracie family and Royce Gracie very well. For years I was on the 'inside' of the Gracie family. Royce was never considered a good blackbelt by the rest of the jiujitsu community. When Rorion Gracie first introduced his families jiujitsu, he created quite a stir in the martial arts community by issueing the $100,000. challenge. After observing what passed for martial arts training in the US in the 80's, he was so confident that his family jiujitsu style would prevail over any other art, he offered 100 grand to anyone who could prove otherwise. I was witness to hundreds of challenge matches during the early 90's when I started training. Sure enough, even an average jiujitsu student had no trouble beating standup striking styles. Rorion then decided to go step further to market 'Gracie Jiujitsu' and form the UFC. I was one of the original investors in the UFC and was ringside at all of Royce's fights. The early UFc's had no rules other than no biting or eye gouging. Hair pulling, groin shots, finger bending etc. were all part of the game. None of the fighters were allowed to wrap or protect their hands. This resulted in a lot of broken hands in those first few UFC's.Most importantly,there was no time limits and once the fight went to the ground, it stayed there until someone quit or was unable to continue. The jiujitsu man could exercise patience and take all the time in the world to secure victory. Royce was chosen to represent the Gracie family because he was skinny, weak and non-athletic. Rorion felt that when people saw what a skinny guy like Royce could do with jiujitsu, they would feel like they coul;d do it to. Royce won all those early fights because no one had any idea of what jiujitsu was all about. Royce launched a huge move in the martial arts community toward ground fighting. Soon everyone and their brother was training jiujitsu. Because most people were uneducated in the ground game, the audiences found jiujitsu boring. After Rorion sold the UFC, the new investors wanted t.o make it more exciting. They no longer allowed the fight to stay on the ground, but would stand guys back up, allowing more chances for spectacular knockouts. Protective gloves were allowed to satisfy the crowds knockout lust and to playcate the local boxing organizations who govererned the state athletic commissions. The gloves allowed for hard, wild punches that no longer resulted in broken hands. The gloves gave a huge advantage to the strikers, while greatly limiting the grapplers ability to apply holds. On top of the new rules, everyone was training jiujitsu. Matt Hughs is a very good submission grappler that has trained many years with some of the top jiujitsu fighters. So what happens when you put a athletic, conditioned, technical fighter against a skinny, weak technical fighter is what Matt did to Royce. Hughs beat Royce with beautifully executed jiujitsu moves...the same tools that had won fights for the Gracie's for decades. One thing for sure, now as it was 15 years ago, you had better back your stand up with jiujitsu training. Steve Maxwell

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jiujitsu training somewhat compromised. I settled on doing strength and endurance in the same week (ala Clarence Bass) or even the same workout. Because I do my jiujitsu training 4 to 5 days per week, I had to adjust my volume of strength/conditioning down. I found two weekly workouts to be ideal, with one being strength oriented and the other based on the high rep quick lifts. I have also found good results from working on pure strength first and then using a high rep endurance movement last as a finisher. For example, heavy kettlebell presses alternated with weighted pullups. As a finisher, 10 minutes of swings done using the interval training method; 15 seconds work with 15 seconds rest (1:1 work/rest ratio). That's just one example. Of course, I do joint mobility daily, alternating standing work one day with mat work the next and then I teach jiujitsu and spar with my students. So I have to watch the over training. If I didn't do the grappling, I would probaly opt for three weekly weight workouts.