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1jus3tin1: August 31 2006
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Pavel, welcome back to the forum
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Pavel, I have only recently discovered your many programs and articles. I am a baseball pitcher and I am desperately trying to gain velocity and power. I have recently purchased (Loaded Stretching) and found it to be very informative. I do believe; however, that I should probably do something first to develop a base of strength/power. Since I can only do one of your programs at a time - which do you recommend. KB's, Naked Warrior, etc. Exclude "(Fast & Loose)" as I am fascinated by the relax/tension concept and will be ordering the DVD tomorrow. Thanks.
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 02 2006
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Thank you, Com. 1jus3tin1!
A basic program for you: KB swings, hip flexor stretches from Strength Stretching (extremely important), full contact twists from Bullet Proof Abs. If you are looking for private training, Com Steve Maxwell works with baseball pros.
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1jus3tin1: August 31 2006
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Pavel, welcome back to the forum
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Pavel, I have only recently discovered your many programs and articles. I am a baseball pitcher and I am desperately trying to gain velocity and power. I have recently purchased (Loaded Stretching) and found it to be very informative. I do believe; however, that I should probably do something first to develop a base of strength/power. Since I can only do one of your programs at a time - which do you recommend. KB's, Naked Warrior, etc. Exclude "(Fast & Loose)" as I am fascinated by the relax/tension concept and will be ordering the DVD tomorrow. Thanks.
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 02 2006
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Thank you, Com. 1jus3tin1!
A basic program for you: KB swings, hip flexor stretches from Strength Stretching (extremely important), full contact twists from Bullet Proof Abs. If you are looking for private training, Com Steve Maxwell works with baseball pros.
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1jus3tin1: August 31 2006
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Pavel, welcome back to the forum
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Pavel, I have only recently discovered your many programs and articles. I am a baseball pitcher and I am desperately trying to gain velocity and power. I have recently purchased (Loaded Stretching) and found it to be very informative. I do believe; however, that I should probably do something first to develop a base of strength/power. Since I can only do one of your programs at a time - which do you recommend. KB's, Naked Warrior, etc. Exclude "(Fast & Loose)" as I am fascinated by the relax/tension concept and will be ordering the DVD tomorrow. Thanks.
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 02 2006
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Thank you, Com. 1jus3tin1!
A basic program for you: KB swings, hip flexor stretches from Strength Stretching (extremely important), full contact twists from Bullet Proof Abs. If you are looking for private training, Com Steve Maxwell works with baseball pros.
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Grey Fox: August 31 2006
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Com. Pavel -- Soviet Show Troop Routine Questions
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First off -- thanks for delivering such fantastic tools to the public! From your books to your seminars and videos to the kettlebells themselves, you have truly given the US fitness community alot to chew on, and made intelligent training possible for those of us who are starting at the drawing board. Your work has influenced my thoughts on training more than any other coach or trainer, and I really appreciate it. More than anything else, thank you for reminding Americans that it isn't about LOOKING fit and functional, but actually BEING fit and functional.
I have asked this question of the forum and gotten some very good responses, but I would like to hear directly from you how the Soviet Show troops to which you refer organized their workouts. I understand the Bear program outlined in PTP and have experienced some gains with it, but I am under the impression from BB that the Soviet Trooper workout may be more involved.
What I'd like to know is what kind of split would this kind of workout be based around, given the huge volume of work? How did these trops actually arrange their routines?
In fact, having searched the forum for answers to these questions and seeing how many times other people have made similar queries, I suspect a great many Comrades would like to know as much about this routine as they can, so any information you are willing to offer would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again for all of the tools you have offered us, and in anticipation of continuing Russian Evil.
Grey Fox
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 02 2006
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Com. Grey Fox, thank you for your kind words!
There were many ways these programs were organized. The common theme: approx. twice a week per muscle group heavy, high volume, no failure work. The Bear and a number of the BB programs are similar.
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yfnwman: September 05 2006
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Chest to Bar Overhand pull-ups
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I have a problem doing an overhand pull-up all the way to my chest. I can do it fine to the neck but doing it to the chest seems impossible. Is this ok?
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 05 2006
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Com. yfnwman, most people can't. There are two types of pullups to the chest: an exaggerated tactical pullup with your chest hollowed and an intention of muscling out over the bar and the sternum pullup. The latter is a posture corrective exercise with a groove similar to the barbell bent over row. Unlike the tac pullup you open the chest to the max, inhale on the pull, tilt your head back, and lean back. Practice with partner assistance.
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daryldo: September 07 2006
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Master of Sports certification Pavel or anyone who knows?
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Hey, Was reading about Pavel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Tsatsouline
and it says about master of sports certification from the former Soviet government.
I dont been to be nosey, but what what sort of qualification is that, or what subject, Like what would be the equivalent in say UK or american terms.
I was thinking degree in kinesiology or sports science or something.
Thanks
Daryl
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 08 2006
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Com. Paul, thanks for a clear answer.
Com. Daryldo, for comparison's sake it takes A 565kg total to earn a CMS in the 181lb class and 720kg to earn an MS. As Com. Paul said, numbers increase as the sport evolves. At the first USSR PL cup the winner of the 181lb class totalled 717.5kg -not enough to make an MS today. Ditto in GS.
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Robert Rönngren: September 09 2006
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Training advice
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Hi everyone. This is my situation: I have been training kickboxing and Muay Thai for a couple of years now and this fall i was going to switch to MMA. But sadly i can't afford to train any ma at all right now, being a poor student and all.
So this semester I'm planning on focusing on increasing my strength levels, since that is imo my weak point. So I would like some advice on what to do. I've been doing pttp theses last two weeks, but i need to at least maintain my conditioning levels while increasing my max strength.
So, how do I do that in an effective way? Increasing max strength and at least maintain anaerobic (and aerobic i guess) conditioning?
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 11 2006
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Com. Robert, welcome to the Party! Kettlebells would be your best choice but if money is an issue do roadwork the way boxers do. PTP will take care of your strength.
If MA are important to you you get an extra job to pay for the classes.
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Jim Madden: September 12 2006
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Hit 5x5 ladders with 70, now what?
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I'm sorry to flood the forum with my questions the last couple days, all stemming from one session last Saturday.
I did 5 ladders of 5 rungs with my 70lbs KB on Saturday, quite easily. However, I won't have the cash for an 88 for probably a couple months (the van needs tires and the boys need bunk beds). So should I cook my C&P using some of Pavel's tips from "(The Russian Kettlebell Challenge)"? Should I work up to even bigger ladders, say 5 ladders of 8 rungs, etc.? I've also thought about switching to barbell side press.
I'd love some ideas here. Thanks.
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 13 2006
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Com. Jim, add ladders, no problem. Com. Kenneth Jay who can press 70+53 with one hand does up to 100 reps total with a 70 in training and Com. Joe Sarti has pressed the Beast while training with a 70 and a 53 (not at once).
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lee: September 13 2006
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Question about leaning forward while squatting..
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Hi all, hoping that you can clarify something for me..
I've often been critisized for leaning forward a bit too much while squatting, and have been trying to correct this problem with little success. However, lately I've become more convinced that this is a squatting style thats suited for my body type.
I'm 1.90m tall, lanky with long legs and a relatively short torso. If I'm not mistaken, squatting correctly requires one to
a. sit back and down
b. keep your knees from drifting over your toes,
wouldnt that imply that a person with my proportions would be required to lean forward more in order to keep the barbell over my center of gravity (ie my heels)? Also, wouldnt it be also true that the farther I sit back, the bigger the lean? I've already switched to a pretty wide stance and have the barbell higher up on my traps; the forward lean is less pronounced, but still there. Please note that I have no problems maintaining a tight arch in my back, its just I lean forward from my hips.
Any help please?
Thanks in advance
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 13 2006
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Com. Lee, you are correct; I can't SQ upright for the same reason.
Make sure to keep your abs and back strong and do some face the wall SQs for relative 'uprightness'.
And consider a wider stance.
And give the DL a shot; that's your lift.
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YangHo: September 15 2006
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Com Pavel, a question...
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Hello Com Pavel and all other comrades!
At the moment I'm in Zhengzhou in Henan province in China training about 7 hours a day wushu, pretty exhausting, at the moment I can't think of much strength training, but sometimes we even do pistols :-)
Now to my question: In the past I asked you how to keep the kicking leg straight while doing leg swings and your advise worked really well.
In wushu its very very important to keep everything straight while kicking, as I come from a TKD backround I have really a hard time to keep my upper body upright and especially my supporting leg straight, are there any drills that can help me with this problem? I try to keep it as straight as possible but it always bends...:-(
Another question: I'm sure you know that in China bouncing is the favourite way of stretching and they seem to have success with it. Now that I've read all your books I'm a little bit afraid of this method and it also builds no strenghth as opposed to isometrics. I'm trying to do forced relaxation 2 -3 times a week when I'm not too exhausted but still, is bouncing any good or what should I do to avoid injuries?
Thank you so much for reading, I'm sure you can help me!
Greetings from Zhengzhou!
yang
PS: If anyone wants to see some pictures of my school and the whole trip to China, click here www.flickr.com/photos/wushu :-)
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 18 2006
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Com. YangHo, I suggest you repost the upright question and direct it at Com. Steve Cotter.
Rhythmical stretching has its benefits although I would not 'bounce'. Mix up rhythmical JM type drills with RIS.
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ashe: September 16 2006
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pistols + back injury
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about a year ago i started having low back pain. for a while it got REALLY bad.
i've been working with KB's and most of pavel
's other materiels for a while now and my back was felling MUCH better. almost normal, although i had some tightness.
so i have been working on pistols for a while, but my lower back has been holding me back.
check the link for a video clip of me trying a negetive from the beggining of this week.
anyway, i was all warmed up today and i went for it, felt really great and really strong all the way down, felt good to come back up, but then somethign happened. i had a really bad blow out around L4 or L5, feels like i really strained all the multifidus / soft tissue.
any suggestions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAjnlPR9E6Q
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 18 2006
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Com. ashe, see a doc. If you are allowed to do pistols again the following helps protect the back:
1) the emphasis on the hip flexor tightness
2) a braced stomach
3) a flatter lower back
It is also important to be comfortable and not strained in the bottom position before trying to get up. May take time.
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totaltension: September 18 2006
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Tactical Periodization
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Hi all,
Pavel thankyou for your reply and time. Here is my Tactical Periodization plan, slightly different from the original post and with goals as requested. Also just seeing what other people use for their Tactical Periodization plans ?
KB Snatches
KB Presses (Side Press / Mil Press)
Swap after a couple months with
BB Deadlift
BB Push Press
Pullups
Training Goals
Deadlift 200KG+
Snatch / Press 48KG Kettlebell.
Desired outcomes from these goals
Strong back, shoulders & grip. Strength to push, pull, lift, drag, throw, crush etc.
Thanks for your time,
Cheerio
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 19 2006
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Com. Michael, because of an elbow injury I can only stagger my grip one way which can be hard on the back. So I switched to the hook grip. I don't reps with the hook grip as reps tear up the thumb. Since grip is not my problem in the DL I use straps for my fives.
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totaltension: September 18 2006
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Tactical Periodization
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Hi all,
Pavel thankyou for your reply and time. Here is my Tactical Periodization plan, slightly different from the original post and with goals as requested. Also just seeing what other people use for their Tactical Periodization plans ?
KB Snatches
KB Presses (Side Press / Mil Press)
Swap after a couple months with
BB Deadlift
BB Push Press
Pullups
Training Goals
Deadlift 200KG+
Snatch / Press 48KG Kettlebell.
Desired outcomes from these goals
Strong back, shoulders & grip. Strength to push, pull, lift, drag, throw, crush etc.
Thanks for your time,
Cheerio
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 18 2006
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Com. totaltension, ladders of up to 5 reps with DLs (2/week) and KB presses (3/week) with periodic unloading would serve your goals much better. Just add some grip work or do easier DL sets with a double overhand grip, no hook.
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Ulysses: September 19 2006
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PTP Questions?
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What's the purpose of the back off set in the routine? If done correctly is the bent press a better alternative to the side press?
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 20 2006
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Com. Ulysses, Com. mettleman is right -the 2x5 or the bear will not work for the BtP as it is more techically demanding and needs more practice. E.g., if your max is 100lbs, your workout might look like this:
35x3
40x3
45x3
50x3
55x2
60x2
65x2
70x2
75x1
80x1
85x1
90x1/3 sets
65x5/3 sets
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stapes1: September 19 2006
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Best template for S & C
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What would peoples suggestions for the best template for Strength and conditioning for an LEO, ETK ROP with interval training or circuits on the variety days or the template Pavel laid out in his previous blog, thanks.
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 20 2006
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Com. stapes1, the ETK ROP plus heavy pullups (either between presses or on the variety days) plus low volume of pistols, KB FSQs, or Hack SQs on variety days for better mobility in low shooting stances. But even the straight ETK ROP will be enough.
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Torilla: September 20 2006
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Teh myth about heavy weights making one slow
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Can anyone give me a specific explanation why heavy weight training doesn't make you slow, because I know it won't? Some total noobs say to me that I'm gonna slow down if I deadlift, which is pooptalk, etc.
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 21 2006
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Com. Torilla, ask Com. Steve Baccari and his fighters to explain it manually ;]
The Soviet Boxing Yearbook offered the following strength program design recommendations:
• Near-maximal weights, 80-95% 1RM.
• Five to seven sets.
• One to three reps.
Nothing like bodybuilding which does make you slow.
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CarlSmith: September 20 2006
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One legged squats on the ball of foot.
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Comrades,
We do Hack Squats and Hindu Squats on the toes. Why is it dangerous to do them on the toes with one leg. I understand that it is not the same as a pistol, but for quad developement, is it a valid exercise.
(Note: I few years ago I worked up to 30 on each leg with no ill affects. I stopped after reading the forum.Thought about them today while doing Hack Squats.)
Thanks,
Carl
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 21 2006
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Com. Carl, if you have healthy knees and if you do them right ('find space in the knees and hips'), they are great. Watch Resilient and apply the Hack SQ tips.
Another tip. When SQing on the ball of the foot it is important that the knee goes forward rather than gets 'squished' from above. Totally different mechanics from flat-footed SQs.
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CarlSmith: September 20 2006
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One legged squats on the ball of foot.
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Comrades,
We do Hack Squats and Hindu Squats on the toes. Why is it dangerous to do them on the toes with one leg. I understand that it is not the same as a pistol, but for quad developement, is it a valid exercise.
(Note: I few years ago I worked up to 30 on each leg with no ill affects. I stopped after reading the forum.Thought about them today while doing Hack Squats.)
Thanks,
Carl
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 21 2006
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Com. Carl, if you have healthy knees and if you do them right ('find space in the knees and hips'), they are great. Watch Resilient and apply the Hack SQ tips.
Another tip. When SQing on the ball of the foot it is important that the knee goes forward rather than gets 'squished' from above. Totally different mechanics from flat-footed SQs.
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team: September 20 2006
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Suggestions please: AWG combat PFT
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The AWG combat PFT consists of three events done in BDU's, boots, body armor and helmet. The three events are: 1)4-mile run, 2)6 ft. wall climb, 3)carry a 165lb. dummy for 50 meters. My primary concern is running for 4 miles with an additional 30-35lbs. on my body and not wrecking my knees, or anything else for that matter. Any and all training suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you and God bless The Party.
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 21 2006
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Com. team, do Kb swings, light and heavy. E.g., high reps with a 24kg and sets of 8-10 with 2x24kg on different days. If you don't have 2kbs just single KB swings.
Heavy ab work, joint mobility, and some calf work would help too. But swings are #1.
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Torilla: September 21 2006
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Alternatives for splits-stretching
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So, as I told in another post, I got sore knees from trying the roadkill splits, haven't done those in a long time, and now I concentrate in serious strengthening only, for I know that sore knee joints/ligaments/whatever take frustatingly long time to heal, and I'd like to know what alternatives I could do that won't stress the knees?
For example, someone recommended me the Frog stretch, but I don't know how to do them and I'd like to see pictures also, thank you.
I've almost mastered the pistols, and I'll include one-legged deadlifts in my training after I finally get the 2-pood kettlebell.
Pavel, this is a great forum! ;)
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 22 2006
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Com. Torilla, here is how to do the frog stretch:
Assume the frog position on a surface that does not irritate your knees. Put your weight on your elbows and start moving back and forth.
As you go forward push your knees apart, pull your hips out of the sockets, and lengthen your spine. Use your strength. Use rhythm.
“Squat horizontally”, make sure to go back far enough to flex your knees and hips as much as you would if you were parallel squatting.
Then pry each hip by internally rotating it, squeezing the glutes, and pushing your pelvis into the floor. The groove is similar to the Thai boxing roundhouse kick.
Another prying move is drawing circles on the deck with your pelvis.
Come to the Unlock! workshop; we'll show you.
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heman: September 22 2006
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cycling simplificated
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Hi Comrades,
Man great forum with nice helpfull people-cool!=)
i had some problem with login in-so I was only able to read through the forum for 1 week and I read lots of interesting things.
I have a copy of PTP and also Beyond BB for 2 weeks now.
To be honest:I like this books best-not cause everyone is saying it-but there is a BIG difference instead to other books-it is the simplification of periodisation and cycling.
Why I am so happy about this?
I am training for about 7 years now.The suxcess:failure rate have been:30:70-not really great-but i never wanted to give up.
Because after 2 years when i started training my progress stalled,i began to read literature about it-for 7 years-i have it ALL:Darden,Siff,McStuard,scripts from universities;Zatjorski,Mentzer-all.
Through this flow on information-paralysis analysis was the consequence-however,I always tried to work things out right-but it seldom happened.
I know too much I don´t have to know-but I know too less i have to know.
Sure after 7 years I got heavier about 40 pounds-but also some fat-and my strength gains have never been the best.
I did fancy programms and tried to periodize-but i was overloaded with information:should i do a conjugate approach,wave or linear-if yes-how long-should i mix strength qualities up-or train them seperately-and if yes how to wave intensity and volume?????
i have also been on t-nation-the guys are great-but there are much "short term programms" "23 weeks for loading guns" "3 months for a robocop chest" and so on. But what am i supposed to do AFTER this programms-where is the long time perspective?
This is what i missed most in books,posts and articles.
this is why I like the contents of Pavel books.
My question to you comrades:
After messing around so long,I am sick of trying things out,messing around with a calculator in the weight room for evaluating my weights for the session...
I want IT SIMPLE and EFFECTIVE.
My goal is mass and strength-so I am not a typical BB and not a typical Powerlifter-be strong as you look-as pavel stated is the best way for me.
Now i am thinking about 2 options to realize that:
1.the bear-cycled with PTP
2.free style period.of beyond BB
( I am not interested in the 3-5programms pavel has written,DeLorme etc.-sure they look great,but I want sth.for the long term perspective and not again a 4 week approach)
1. BEAR: would be more attractive to me,cause its more simple-as mentioned before I need no fancy programms any more-I had them for YEARS!-the simpler the better.
But i have some problems reagarding the 10 commandments of free style period. from BBB and the bear from PTP-the recommondations are different:
Bear:
-Always 4-6 reps-no variation like in the 10 commandments (1-3 /4-7/8-12/12+)
-No deload
-No extrem variation in the intensity ,volume and poundage and the proximity to muscle failure. You always rep out,till your form suffers,then you stop.
The only variation at the bear is the cycling of the load of the first money set(ptp cycling:wave etc.)-which surely also determinates the weight of the bear set-cause its always 80% of it. And this are no extreme jumps in weight like the 10 comm. recommend.
-The volume could be MUCH higher then the 150reps -which is recommondated for a split routine in the 10 commandments but sure will be more on a whole body 3x per week for the bear.
-The load for the bear is quite low.For sarcomer hypertr.a load of min.70%is the general recommondation.
If you take 80% of your 10RPM(which is the starting weight of the cycle for the first money set)
you work with 60% of your 1rpm.that’s approx.the weight for a 20RPM! That’s really light.Sure it gets heavier through the cycle but max.to 70%.
How can we fix that? Or should I simply do the bear-switch the exercises-do PTP-switch exercises-do bear again etc.-Will be smooth and simple.
Regarding the 10 commentments I also have questions:
-there are no rest periods for recommondation
-how can I incorporate the principles in a 3xwhole body per week-they sound like for a split.
-How ecaxtly should I vary the intensity,volume and proximity to muscle failure each workout? There fex.is no clear percentage of the 1rpm you have to work with. It would be more evident to say “Vary your loads and reps-but stay in the 70%-90%of 1rpm”-I don´t think that a load of 50% will do the trick.
And a similar recommondation for waving volume.That all sounds too blury to me.
-Are the 10commandments for a “life long” progress or is it necessary to include max strength phases and other stuff?-I hope not,cause otherwise the rules will make no sense and it will be again more complicated.
Sorry comrades its really a long post but these questions are following me for years.
I will really appreciate if any of the old bears take some time to help me!
As mentioned-i need to fancy Sheiko programm with percentages and calculating the total load volume-I want a simple cylce to do over and over again-even if the gains are suboptimal compared to other programms-but they should be visible and steady.
Power to you and hopefully to me=)
Yours truly, heman
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 22 2006
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Com. heman, thank you for your kind words and welcome to the Party!
A long term program is traditional simple cycling such as PTP. Occasionally spice things up for a few month by doing the Bear or another harder program. It is a mistake to write off programs like the BB DeLorme because they are 'short term'. Crash programs have their place in training -occasionally. E.g., the Smolov SQ cycle can putt 100 pounds on your SQ in 13 weeks -but you should not even think about doing it more than once a year or less.
You make many interesting point in your post; I suggest you post them one at a time.
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team: September 25 2006
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Pavel, another AWG PFT question please,
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Pavel, in light of your suggestion on light and heavy swings on different days, could you recommend a weekly schedule for me also taking account your suggestion to throw in some heavy ab, JM and calf work?
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 25 2006
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