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lesotho72: September 01 2005
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Side Press causing minor pain in right shoulder
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I've just started my 2nd cycle of the PTP workout and really enjoy it. When doing side presses (right hand only) my shoulder gets a bit sore--though not 'good' sore. I have tendonitis and imagine this is the reason for the pain. I can still make it through the workouts and the pain subsides within an hour or two but want to be careful. Anyone else experience this? Possible solutions? Other shoulder exercises which are equally beneficial but less painful? Note--also doing bench presses + dead lifts--which cause no pain.
Thanks,
Dan
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 02 2005
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Com. Dan, presuming no medical problems, you need to learn how to keep your shoulder down and use your lats. Try one-arm military barbell press with the 'virtual shoulder' technique (see my KB blog archives on the home page).
And pull the weight down too, don't just passively lower it.
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daimers: September 05 2005
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Stretching Lab Rat.
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Everybody and anybody who can assist and add some insight.
This is in regards to stretching for a side split.
Now, before you say, "oh not again, did this guy to a site search?"
Yep, I did and I read all of the posts there. Infact I have done it many times, reading over and over.
Now, I am 32 years old, pysically fit and eager to reach my goals. Problem is I have been working on one goal for near 10 years or more.
I still get hip pain in the sides of my hips when doing a split, seated, roadkill or anyway I try. I am only about 6 to 8 inchs from a split and somedays are better than others but thats life right?
The pain may not be what some refer to be my femur hitting my pelvis as it starts to hurt at about mid straddle to my current range of motion. I can slowly bear the pain of my hips and lower myself until I feel a good stretch in my goin but this takes work and is alot harder than contracting the final stretch.
This is what I am currently doing.
Every moring I do the leg raises from SJ.
Then for two days on and one day off I do the following:
Cossacks
hip flexor stretch (on the ground as I am still getting a stretch from it)
hamstrings
buttocks
adductors
(I also hold everything for 1 minute each other than the interval splits).
On the day inbetween these two days I do forced relaxation stretchs. And the workout is done every 3rd day like this
Cossack switchs
Hip flexors
hamstrings
Glutes and hip
Road kill split
(now in between each stretch I slowly lower myself into a road kill position as this helps me get to a full stretch on the final adductor stretch)
I hold each for 30 seconds other than the road kill that I hold for 1 minute, if I can handle the pain every workout.
Now I started today adding in the split switchs so hopefully that can help but any insight will be deeply appreciated from anyone. This problem seems to plauge many people who have attempted full splits and it seems that no one has the answer. YET!
OK, I am now offically a Dragon Door lab rat. I want the pain to end and I want this damm split before I hit 80 years old.
I am also inetrested if anyone who has achieved full splits to mentor me.
I have got all of Pavel's publications on stretching:
RIS (book and video)
(Super Joints) (Book and video)
and many others.
I need a routine to follow if mine is not up to scratch.
I can also begin with updating my training log from this site daily and provide both still photos and digital video of progress.
Lets do this.
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 06 2005
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Com. daimers, do more joint mobility work: rolling back in forth from the seated straddle to the roadkill and split switches. Don't push the ROM, try to relax. Remember to 'pull the hips out of their sockets' and 'lengthen' your lower spine. Do forced relaxation once a week only, JM 3 times and wait out the tension twice. Report in three weeks.
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seabird: September 06 2005
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Pavel: A question on your collegue Vladimer Vasiliev...
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I have conducted some research on martial arts and have concluded that Mr. Vasiliev, as a former Spetnaz personal, may be able to instruct me on various combat and related survival skills(intuition, different environments, cars, etc.). What is your opinion on his program AND how does that differ from the program by Tim Larkin or any other professional?
I await your reply, thank you for your time.
Seabird
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 06 2005
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Com. Seabird, Vladimir is a gentleman and a warrior and so is Tim. Their approaches to CQB are very different; both very impressive. If I were you I would sign up for a course with both and see which style appeals to you.
I am not sure whether they have the facilities to teach tactical skills. Check with them; if they don't, e-mail me and I will hook you up with a top guy. paveltsatsouline@mac.com.
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T. Phillips RKC: September 07 2005
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There may be a monster among us at the TSC Malboro location . . .
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Tom Eisman is a friend of a friend and may show up to compete. Tom has pulled around 800 #'s in his day and is still capable of some sick #'s. He is worth the trip just to get some DL tips. I'll keep you posted. It is going to be a great day people. If you can make the trip come out!
Thomas Phillips
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 07 2005
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Com. Rob, I got to high 500s @ approx 190bw but never cracked 600. Given that I have not pulled heavy for a very long time (forcefully extending the elbows irritated the soft tissues) and I weigh 170 now, I will be content with low 500s @ 165 in VA.
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CubsWS: September 08 2005
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What are the following KB exercises called in Russian?...
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What are the following KB exercises called in Russian:
Swing, Clean, Snatch, Jerk, Clean and Jerk;
Military Press, Side Press, Bent Press, Windmill, Turkish Get-Up, Front Squat; also Deadlift. Feel free to write in Russian script.
Thanks.
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 08 2005
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Com. CubsWS
Swing -mah
Clean -vzyatie na grud
Snatch -rivok
Jerk -tolchok
Clean and Jerk -tolchok po dlinnomu tsiklu or simply dlinny tsikl
Military Press -zhim
Side Press -zhim s orklonom
Bent Press -zhim skruchivaniem
Windmill -Skruchivanie
Turkish Get-Up -a very long desriptive name
Front Squat -prisedanie s giryami na grudi
Deadlift -tyaga
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VolFan: September 09 2005
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Pavel/Mike Mahler: Best way to bigger arms w/ KBs? n/m
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Pavel/Mike Mahler: Best way to bigger arms w/ KBs? n/m
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 11 2005
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Com. VolFan, as you have seen from the posts, many Comrades get it done with snatches and even better with long cycle C&Js. Do heed Com. Mike's and Rob's posts though -your technique may need work.
A good KB biceps drill is curling from a 3/4 SQ (the bottom of two hands anyhow) with your elbow propped inside the knee. Sort of like the BB concentration curl but with better leverage and some cheating.
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SeanWilliams: September 11 2005
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Com. Pavel re: plyometrics
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Com.Pavel, could you please give me an example of a "true" plyometric workout that would be ideal for Smolov switching phase and Olympic weightlifting? I believe that my knees, tendons and ligaments are ready for it. Thanks a lot.
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 13 2005
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Com. Sean, following are two complexes from Prof. Medvedev:
1. Pistols x8-10 per leg (I would stick with 5) or squats with a partner on the shoulders (x8-10) or barbell back squats (x6-8)
2. Repeated jumps from a deep squat (x6-8) up and forward kettlebell throws (24-32kg x 6-8)
3. Easy accelerations up to 80-100m or jogging 200-300m;
4. Shaking the muscles and other relaxation exercises, stretching
1. Repeated jumps from a low squat (x8-12) or alternate pistol jumps or jumps with a 24-32kg Kb for max height (x8-10)
2. Two-three steps and jump off both feet trying to reach a hanging object (x8-10) or repeated jumps up bringing the knees to the chest (x8-10)
3. Easy accelerations or jogging (6-8min)
4. Shaking the muscles and other relaxation exercises, stretching
Enjoy the respite!
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dzurilla: September 15 2005
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as per pavel's request
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my pulling style is standard deadlift,grip is left hand under, right hand over, My last tested max was 385, My height and weight are 6'1 235lbs., my sticking point is right before lock out
my bench is 235, I almost made 240, my sticking point is mid height in the ascent, bench numbers have been hard to increase, but coming slowly(i have long arms, alot of distance to travel!, classic slovak build).
I have been following a program that is loosely based on pttp that looks like this
I increase the poundage by five pound increments every 3rd workout, up until I got my KB 2 months ago my bench was stuck at 225, but I hit a bodyweight bench pretty easily a week ago, I'm conservative with poundage increases on the bench because I train alone. By the end of a 4 week cycle I start over 10% above my previous poundage, doing 3 sets of each exercise, 3 reps. I have mainly been focusing on the bench but have recently cone back to the dead because it is my strongets lift. I'm reaching for a 300lb. bench, eventually 500 lb. deadlift.
thanks in advance
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 16 2005
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Com. dzurilla, heavy double swings (sumo is fine) will help the lockout. Alternate sets of swings and DLs.
Do a few sets of KB overhead lifts for shoulder health here and there but keep your BP training focused on the BP. Up the volume. Then add board presses. When you crack 300 look up what Com. Donnie Thompson does for his upper back.
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bwake: September 15 2005
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Pavel, Incline Bench Press w/ Cambered Bar?
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I recently caught an old clip of Ken Shamrock in his prime doing incline bench presses w/ a cambered bar. Shamrock has always been a beast when it comes to physical conditioning, so I was curious as to whether or not these type of incline presses would be more beneficial than the standard version. Also, what is the best incline to set the bench at when performing presses? Finally, can k-bells be substituted for a bar, and would this provide even better results than the standard incline press? I read in (Beyond Bodybuilding) that the incline bench press is the best exercise for acquiring armour-like pecs, and that is what I am after. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Brandon
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 17 2005
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Com. Brandon, ping Com. Kurt Pitman, RKC from TX, a kickboxing world champ whos has trained with Ken Shamrock to ask why.
I don't see why not do it if your shoulders can take it.
KBs will work unless they are too light.
The angle of the incline depends on your goals. If you do it to improve your MP go steep, if for the BP, go flatter. The best bench is the old-fashioned kind that allowed you to 'stand' at an angle. If you are doing it for the heck of it any angle is fine.
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Celtic Comrade: September 19 2005
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To Comrade Pavel: Specific question about Gireviks
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Tovarisch Tsatsouline
My intention for the future is to compete at the kettlebell convention and/or the meets that are being held across the nation. From what I've gathered about GS from literature and photos, the average Girevik is not hugely muscular. At 73 kgs at 181 cms, neither am I. Im looking for the optimal weight to compete at for my height and build, and I was wondering what your recolection is of your fellow Gireviks. For instance, how large were the men at 70, 75, and 80 kgs, as I would compete within that range. The reasoning behind this question is that in many sports (and Im sure you're no stranger to hockey and wrestling), one is assigned to a position or weight class based on build and height as well as ability. Does the same rule apply to Girevoy Sport in Russia?
Thanks
Tovarisch Nesbitt
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Pavel Tsatsouline: September 19 2005
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Com. Celtic Comrade, don't sweat it, train smart and hard and once you are close to CMS you can decide which class is yours. It is too hard to tell which way your body comp will change. If you insist on knowing the Russian gireviks anthropometric data, an 80kg Team Russia member averages 174.6cm in height, 179cm in the 90kg class, and 180.7 in the 90+. Meaningless trivia, really.
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