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Question

Marty RKC: June 30 2005 

Weighted Spinal Decompression 

Gals/guys, I hung from a pullup bar (two arms) with 2 2poods on my ironmind squats belt. The weight on the belt effectively pulled my shoulders and spine to a point of great relaxation. The point of posting this is to ask what you back specialists think. Overhead lifting is a big part of GS(100%) and I haven't been stretching enough. The reason being is that I felt really good after this RKC. Anyways, I will test the pullup bar integrity by adding more weight. Though 4 pood is a lot I've hung on one arm (with a lot of chalk and false grip) with 5 pood in the other hand. two arms with 8 pood would interesting. The hard part would be to stand up with once it was in my belt. The other thing is would my pullup bar rip out of the wall. Marty 

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 01 2005 

Com. Marty, while impressive, if you let your attention wonder momentarily and relax your shoulders you are heading for a big hurt. BW is sufficient for loosening up your back. One arm hangs done for short stretches with a KB in the free hand and the shoulder maximally retracted are good for those who train to achieve the OAC. 

 

Question

BJ Bliffert RKC: June 30 2005 

Scapular retraction and the deadlift 

Quick question. When getting in to postion for the DL I pull myself down, chest out shoulders back, grip the bar, get tight and squeeze the bar off the ground. I notice that about hlaf way up my shoulders, although my chest is still out and back arched, tend to come forward a little. Not enough to round my upper back though. Should I focus on keeing the scapula retreacted through out the whole movement? Or is it OK if the shoulder come forward a little. My goal is to get my pull back to where it is college, but with better form, and to add a littel beef to my upper back and traps. Thanks, BJ 

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Pavel Tsatsouline: July 01 2005 

Com. BJ, if you were a beginner, I would say yes, keep them retracted like an Oympic lifter to assure your lower back stays flat. For an experienced puller, if the lower back stays flat the upper back rounding is not a problem -as long as you can still lock out. Dropping the shoulders and spreading the shoulder blades shortens the stroke. 

 

Question

gaijin: July 04 2005 

Questions from a new guy 

Hi, This is my first post here.I have some questions for Mr.Tsatsouline(or anyone that can help). I read on one of Pavels answers here on the forum(although i can't find it now to quote it exactly) that he recommends fighters perform deadlifts instead of squats because fighters shouldn't want to add leg mass. 1-Do deadlifts stimulate your legs enough?(sorry if you find that a dumb question.I have always done squats) 2-If the PTTP training approach is used,couldn't you squat without adding size? Also,Mr.Tsatsouline recommends a trainee shouldn't stretch everyday.However,i am currently training to grade and train twice per day(running in the A.M,sparring or weights in the P.M). I am currently stretching after each session.Would you say it is ok not to stretch after each session?I am training to improve my flexibility,so don't want to "tighten up" after running. Any help would be appreciated, Gaijin 

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Pavel Tsatsouline: July 04 2005 

Com. Gaijin, welcome to the Party! 1-Do deadlifts stimulate your legs enough?(sorry if you find that a dumb question.I have always done squats). YES, ESP. THE DUCK STYLE. IF YOUR ART INVOLVES LOW STANCES ADD PISTOLS. 2-If the PTTP training approach is used,couldn't you squat without adding size? -SOME PEOPLE CAN, OTHERS CAN'T. EXPERIMENT. ONE OPTION: 'DEAD' SQUATS FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE POWER RACK. COM. BUD JEFFRIES HAS A GREAT BOOK AT STRONGERMAN.COM. Also,Mr.Tsatsouline recommends a trainee shouldn't stretch everyday.However,i am currently training to grade and train twice per day(running in the A.M,sparring or weights in the P.M). I am currently stretching after each session.Would you say it is ok not to stretch after each session?I am training to improve my flexibility,so don't want to "tighten up" after running. JUST SHADOW BOX TO LOOSEN UP.  

 

Question

Justindh: July 04 2005 

Pavel 

Pavel, how is your brother-in-law doing? Also, how is the COC#3 gripper coming along? Is your elbow doing better yet? 

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 04 2005 

Com. Justindh, thanks for asking! Kirk is doing well; the treatment is working. Closing the #3 with a set is no problem, the credit card is still evading me. Re the elbow, I tweaked it again a few days ago. I had analyzed my training log and finally figured out that the thing that aggravates it the most is loading it without max tension on top of the elbow (small elbow flexors, wrist extensors, etc.). I acted on it and started quickly improving, doing pullups with 100+ pounds after not being able to do pullups for a year, etc. As I started to feel better I got stupid I tried some snatches. Dropping the KB or lowering it loose bothered me in the past but I thought I was over it. Not so. Do as I say, not as I do ;] 

 

Question

odm6!: July 04 2005 

Lower Back Pain 

I have been using a 36 lbs. kettle bell for about two years with good results and no back pain. Recently I upgraded to a 53lbs and no after 15 min. of snatches, cleans and jerks I have found that my lower back hurts for the next several days. I have been paying close attention to my form, keeping my back bowed forward and driving from the legs. Any other suggestions? Thanks 

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 04 2005 

Com. odm6, welcome to the Party! Hard to tell for sure but my guess is you have not eased into it properly. 15min of hard training with a much heavier KB is not the way to go. A couple of easy sets added to your regular 36lb workout is. Power and health to you! 

 

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bill fox: July 04 2005 

Refining the Formula w/ SRKC input.... 

Had 2 major conversations last week, one with Maxwell about how to refine a crossfit style template (circuits mixing strength and endurance)to fit our goals/likes (kettlebells and bodyweight)/experiences (staying injury free) and one with Rob Lawrence about his elegant "just double it" idea. Basically Rob gave a talk at the RKC (as he explained it to me) which distilled the whole grinds v. ballistics/strength v. endurance thing down to this - if 3x5 works for strength and grinds (3-5 sets of 3-5 reps) - then for ballistics/endurance "just double it" (6-10 sets of 6-10 reps) on short rests. Eddie's style of strength endurance fits in with this too (less reps/more weight). Now I've talked to both these guys at least a few times week for years, but for some reason it all clicked and I felt the whole thing coming together. Used the four days at the beach to start working out some new workouts although I have limited stuff there. Ingredients will be simple, KBs and bodyweight mostly (but more 1 arm, weight vest and weighted stuff) - more of a shift in how to skew the work more toward strength while holding onto more then enough fitness/leaness. Of course there is no perfect formula - but all the fun's in the looking/playing /experimenting. Logs updated with my last 4 workouts. Bill  

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 06 2005 

Com. Bill, you are too experienced to need a GPP template but many Comrades could use it. Make sure to factor in load variation (intensity, volume, density), include only high benefit to risk ratio exercises, and not practice new moves at high intensity. 

 

Question

troyez: July 05 2005 

Elbow pain 

Let me first say that I am thankful to Pavel for his training insights and expertise - your book "(Power to the People)," has radically changed the way I train. While I have learned much from you Pavel, I was injured before being introduced to your techniques. I developed elbow tendonitis while serving in the US Army (thousands of push-ups!) and have not been able to get past the stabbing pain of elbow tendonitis. What can I do to rehabilitate my elbows? Doctors have told me to get cortisone injections, and to stop working out - stupid quacks, I'm not going to quit training. What should I do Pavel?  

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 06 2005 

Com. troyez, welcome to the Party! Cortisone shots come at a price. I suggest you find a doc who works with professional athletes and get a second opinion. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Once you get fixed up we will show you how to train in a way that minimizes your odds of getting hurt in the future. 

 

Question

powerlifter54: July 09 2005 

Who is interested in OCT 15-16 AAU DL, BP, Push Pull? 

i am interested in doing this as i want to do a push pull in the fall. If a fair amount of people are going i will take the trip to go lift. If there is little interest i can find a meet closer to home. If i go, i will be benching in gear and doing the push pull to PR and win. Is the idea here to pull in just a belt? I can go either way on DLing in a suit or singlet. jmo jack

Meet Entry 

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Pavel Tsatsouline: July 11 2005 

Com. Jack, I have dropped the ball on promoting it but I am coming. Comrades, an update. I spoke to an AAU offiical and you don't need to qualify for the Oct meet. Now you can qualify for our team in any federation's meet before Oct. Or, if you have done it before as Com. Jack has, you are set. Then ping Com. Brett Jones, the captain, breakingstrength@yahoo.com. 

 

Question

powerlifter54: July 09 2005 

Who is interested in OCT 15-16 AAU DL, BP, Push Pull? 

i am interested in doing this as i want to do a push pull in the fall. If a fair amount of people are going i will take the trip to go lift. If there is little interest i can find a meet closer to home. If i go, i will be benching in gear and doing the push pull to PR and win. Is the idea here to pull in just a belt? I can go either way on DLing in a suit or singlet. jmo jack

Meet Entry 

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 11 2005 

Com. Jack, I have dropped the ball on promoting it but I am coming. Comrades, an update. I spoke to an AAU offiical and you don't need to qualify for the Oct meet. Now you can qualify for our team in any federation's meet before Oct. Or, if you have done it before as Com. Jack has, you are set. Then ping Com. Brett Jones, the captain, breakingstrength@yahoo.com. 

 

Question

gt706: July 12 2005 

Boy that earned navy seal trident right out of school?Pavel? 

Comrades, I recieved beyond bodybuilding and in the part about pullup ladders Pavel mentions a boy fresh out of high school who he helped earn the navy seal trident. Saying that he had success with the ladder protocol. I was wondering if pavel or anyone else in the know could tell what the boy's training regimen looked like, and how long it took the boy to get to the level where he needed to be to accomplish training. thanks alot 

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 13 2005 

Com. gt706, the program was GTG and ladders on pullups and pushups, very heavy ab work (FCTs, Jandas, Zerchers), high rep DB snatches (that was before we had KBs) twice a week plus the usual swimming and running. The boy has been a man for a long time, he just came back from war. 

 

Question

T. Phillips RKC: July 23 2005 

Video of my wife's 1.75 BW DL ! ! ! New PR 

Stats: 37 years old mother of two BW = 126 DL = 220 http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Picture-00241 

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 25 2005 

Right on, Com. Rif! It is the lower back that must stay arched or flat. Comrades, we recommend that beginners arch the whole back ('touch your head to your butt') for extra safety. Experienced pullers don't need to do it; rounding the upper back shortens the stroke. See the photo of Gary Frank on the July PLUSA cover. 

 

Question

Wombat659: July 25 2005 

need some help 

so here's my story. i'm a sailor in the us navy, stationed in california going to class from 8-3:30 mon-fri. i've always considered myself in decent shape, however a recent physical fitness test sort of proved me wrong. i didnt score nearly as well as i though i would, only about 55 pushups in 2 min, 70 situps in 2 min, and a 9:30 mile and a half run (was actually sort of proud of the run). i want to get in better shape, and ive been doing kettlebell workouts with a guy in my class on and off for about a month, but not as much as i would like. i've only got about six more months left in california, and i would like to smoke the next assessment in november. can anyone help me come up with a workout plan that i can follow? im very unknowledgeable about what to do, how much to do, etc. so if anyone knowledgeable about such things can help me out, it would be very VERY much appreciated. thank you. 

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 25 2005 

Com. Wombat659, welcome to the Party! For now focus on the events (pushups, situps, running) plus heavy ab work for the sake of your back and KB swings for yur run. Vary the load (see my 'Tactical Periodization' article, milfitmag.com, 'Sample Issue'). 

 

Question

DonP: July 27 2005 

Pavel. 

This is an excerpt from today's article on Tmag.com Comments Pavel The Science of Specificity — John Garhammer, Loren Chiu, and Brian Schilling • After the sport's skills are learned and athletes have reached a high level, the best adaptations and improvements come from the gym. • Only sport practice is 100% specific. Strength and conditioning exercises don't have to mimic or look like the sport. (Another common theme of this conference.) • Single-leg squats don't transfer well to sports maneuvers such as cutting on the field. • The best balance training device is the barbell. Athletes need to put weight over their heads in exercises like the snatch to develop true core stability. This is better than any stability ball exercise. Are these the best balance training devices ever invented? • Generally speaking, fast training increases strength at fast velocities; slow training increases strength at slow velocities. • "Functional training" is kind of like the Department of Redundancy Department. Hopefully all of your training is functional. Anyone have "non-functional" days? • The vertical jump is a great indicator of performance. In one study, football coaches were asked to rank their players from best to worst. After vertical jumps were tested, the results were compared to the coaches' rankings. Sure enough, the good jumpers were the best players and the bad jumpers were the worst players. • Bodybuilders train muscle. For sports performance, you train the neuromuscular system. • Too much machine training can lead to a loss of coordinatio 

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Pavel Tsatsouline: July 28 2005 

Com. Don: • After the sport's skills are learned and athletes have reached a high level, the best adaptations and improvements come from the gym. GENERALLY, YES. • Only sport practice is 100% specific. Strength and conditioning exercises don't have to mimic or look like the sport. (Another common theme of this conference.) THEY SHOULD NOT MIMIC THE MOVEMENT (E.G., DON'T PUNCH WITH DUMBELLS) BUY A NUMBER OF CHARACTERISTICS MUST MATCH. REFER TO SUPERTRAINING. • Single-leg squats don't transfer well to sports maneuvers such as cutting on the field. DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BALL SPORTS; PISTOLS TRANSFER EXCEPTIONALLY WELL TO OPERATOR STUFF, BOXING, AND MA. ASK COM. STEVE BACCARI. • The best balance training device is the barbell. Athletes need to put weight over their heads in exercises like the snatch to develop true core stability. This is better than any stability ball exercise. THE 'BEST' BALANCE TRAINING DEVICE DEPENDS ON THE GOAL. BALANCE IS HIGHLY SPECIFIC. Are these the best balance training devices ever invented? SEE ABOVE. E.G., WALKING A TIGHT ROPE IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU A BETTER KICKER AND V.V. • Generally speaking, fast training increases strength at fast velocities; slow training increases strength at slow velocities. SLOW TRAINING HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE (AND SAFE) AT DEVELOPING DYNAMIC STRENGTH. E.G., THE SIMPLEST WAY TO UP YOUR SVJ IS HEAVY, GRINDING SETS OF 5 IN THE SQ. WHEN YOU SQ 2XBW SPECIALIZED TRAINING IS JUSTIFIED. • "Functional training" is kind of like the Department of Redundancy Department. Hopefully all of your training is functional. Anyone have "non-functional" days? NICE. • The vertical jump is a great indicator of performance. In one study, football coaches were asked to rank their players from best to worst. After vertical jumps were tested, the results were compared to the coaches' rankings. Sure enough, the good jumpers were the best players and the bad jumpers were the worst players. FOR MANY SPORTS IT MAKES SENCE. • Bodybuilders train muscle. For sports performance, you train the neuromuscular system. YES. • Too much machine training can lead to a loss of coordinatio 

 

Question

DonP: July 27 2005 

Pavel. 

This is an excerpt from today's article on Tmag.com Comments Pavel The Science of Specificity — John Garhammer, Loren Chiu, and Brian Schilling • After the sport's skills are learned and athletes have reached a high level, the best adaptations and improvements come from the gym. • Only sport practice is 100% specific. Strength and conditioning exercises don't have to mimic or look like the sport. (Another common theme of this conference.) • Single-leg squats don't transfer well to sports maneuvers such as cutting on the field. • The best balance training device is the barbell. Athletes need to put weight over their heads in exercises like the snatch to develop true core stability. This is better than any stability ball exercise. Are these the best balance training devices ever invented? • Generally speaking, fast training increases strength at fast velocities; slow training increases strength at slow velocities. • "Functional training" is kind of like the Department of Redundancy Department. Hopefully all of your training is functional. Anyone have "non-functional" days? • The vertical jump is a great indicator of performance. In one study, football coaches were asked to rank their players from best to worst. After vertical jumps were tested, the results were compared to the coaches' rankings. Sure enough, the good jumpers were the best players and the bad jumpers were the worst players. • Bodybuilders train muscle. For sports performance, you train the neuromuscular system. • Too much machine training can lead to a loss of coordinatio 

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Pavel Tsatsouline: July 28 2005 

Com. Don: • After the sport's skills are learned and athletes have reached a high level, the best adaptations and improvements come from the gym. GENERALLY, YES. • Only sport practice is 100% specific. Strength and conditioning exercises don't have to mimic or look like the sport. (Another common theme of this conference.) THEY SHOULD NOT MIMIC THE MOVEMENT (E.G., DON'T PUNCH WITH DUMBELLS) BUY A NUMBER OF CHARACTERISTICS MUST MATCH. REFER TO SUPERTRAINING. • Single-leg squats don't transfer well to sports maneuvers such as cutting on the field. DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BALL SPORTS; PISTOLS TRANSFER EXCEPTIONALLY WELL TO OPERATOR STUFF, BOXING, AND MA. ASK COM. STEVE BACCARI. • The best balance training device is the barbell. Athletes need to put weight over their heads in exercises like the snatch to develop true core stability. This is better than any stability ball exercise. THE 'BEST' BALANCE TRAINING DEVICE DEPENDS ON THE GOAL. BALANCE IS HIGHLY SPECIFIC. Are these the best balance training devices ever invented? SEE ABOVE. E.G., WALKING A TIGHT ROPE IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU A BETTER KICKER AND V.V. • Generally speaking, fast training increases strength at fast velocities; slow training increases strength at slow velocities. SLOW TRAINING HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE (AND SAFE) AT DEVELOPING DYNAMIC STRENGTH. E.G., THE SIMPLEST WAY TO UP YOUR SVJ IS HEAVY, GRINDING SETS OF 5 IN THE SQ. WHEN YOU SQ 2XBW SPECIALIZED TRAINING IS JUSTIFIED. • "Functional training" is kind of like the Department of Redundancy Department. Hopefully all of your training is functional. Anyone have "non-functional" days? NICE. • The vertical jump is a great indicator of performance. In one study, football coaches were asked to rank their players from best to worst. After vertical jumps were tested, the results were compared to the coaches' rankings. Sure enough, the good jumpers were the best players and the bad jumpers were the worst players. FOR MANY SPORTS IT MAKES SENCE. • Bodybuilders train muscle. For sports performance, you train the neuromuscular system. YES. • Too much machine training can lead to a loss of coordinatio 

 

Question

frankb: July 27 2005 

Question for Pavel????? 

I'm sure you get this question about a hundred times a day, but what does your training routine look like??? Personally, I like to just do the stuff on your RKC Ballistics/Grinds, with the occasional routine from Maxwells, Mahler, or Martone. Anyways I was just curiuos to see whether you mostly do a combination of different styles of training or if you favored any particular style (PTP, RKC, GTG). The reason why I ask is because even though you seem very thin your strength and endurance sometimes seems almost superhuman. Do you train more than four days a week??? Sorry for all the questions I know that you’re a busy guy. Frank Nunez 

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 28 2005 

Com. Frank, thank you for your kind words but I can assure you that there is nothing superhuman going on. Right now I am gripping the COC almost daily, do some weighted pullups and presses as my elbow is improving, and just started DLing again. My frequency ranges from 3-6 times a week.  

 

Question

tdg260: July 28 2005 

Hitting a plateau with the deadlift 

I have been doing power to the people since Dec. 2003. I started my deadlift at 90lbs and have been following the structured wave cycle. I did the same for the side press starting at 15 lbs. I usually lifted two days in a row, 1 day of rest, and 2 more days in a row. I did cardio on my off days. I did 2 sets, 5 reps each. In February of 2005, I started working out with a 16 kg kettlebell. I have since been working out every other day for 6 days with one day of rest. I dropped the number of reps per set for the deadlift to 3 each in March of 2005 when I started noticing I was having trouble doing 5 reps. I deadlift 3 days a week and do a kettlebell pressing exercise on those days. The other days are ballistic kettlebell workouts. Just this week, I hit a plateau with the deadlift, where I couldn't do the 3 reps. My peak lift is 315 lbs. My question to the group is am I deadlifting enough per week? I think I have been following the structured wave cycle for too long and am thinking about following a step cycle. Any suggestions as to how to break the plateau, and how to work in the kettlebell routines with the deadlift? 

Answer

Pavel Tsatsouline: July 29 2005 

Com. tdg260, if you are also doing swings and snatches, it is too much to DL 3/wk. Alternate DLs and KB quick lifts on Mon, Wed, Fri, thus working each 3 times/2 weeks. Keep pressing 3/week. And start a new DL cycle with the stance opposite of the one you have been using (from cv to sumo or vv). 

 
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Question

bill fox: July 04 2005 

Refining the Formula w/ SRKC input.... 

Had 2 major conversations last week, one with Maxwell about how to refine a crossfit style template (circuits mixing strength and endurance)to fit our goals/likes (kettlebells and bodyweight)/experiences (staying injury free) and one with Rob Lawrence about his elegant "just double it" idea. Basically Rob gave a talk at the RKC (as he explained it to me) which distilled the whole grinds v. ballistics/strength v. endurance thing down to this - if 3x5 works for strength and grinds (3-5 sets of 3-5 reps) - then for ballistics/endurance "just double it" (6-10 sets of 6-10 reps) on short rests. Eddie's style of strength endurance fits in with this too (less reps/more weight). Now I've talked to both these guys at least a few times week for years, but for some reason it all clicked and I felt the whole thing coming together. Used the four days at the beach to start working out some new workouts although I have limited stuff there. Ingredients will be simple, KBs and bodyweight mostly (but more 1 arm, weight vest and weighted stuff) - more of a shift in how to skew the work more toward strength while holding onto more then enough fitness/leaness.