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life-changes: June 08 2005
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HOC with a bike??
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I was thinking about trying some HOC style workouts using an exercise bike something like 2 min on the bike then the KB drill. Is this a good choice?
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Mike Mahler: June 08 2005
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Go one minute on the bike at a moderate pace, jump off and knock off 10 swings, get back on the bike immediately etc. HOC is simply any combination of moderate cardio with high intensity ballistic work. Just another form of interval training.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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JamesC: June 08 2005
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question for Mike Mahler
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You mentioned a while back that Muscle & Fitness was doing a feature on you.Any idea when that may come out?
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Mike Mahler: June 08 2005
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Thanks for asking James. It is going to be a huge piece! At least 5-7 pages with photos of 8 exercises and an article about me and kettlebell training. Of course, it will be great PR for me, but it is also going to be great PR For every KB instructor in the US and overseas.
I supervized the photo shoot for the article last week. I offered to demonstrate the exercises for the photos, but my hairy chest was probably a deal breaker :-) I recommended that they hire Brett Jones, but unfortunately Brett was teaching a "Women's only" kettlebell class at the Playboy Mansion that day and could not get away :-)
Thus, they hired a bodybuilder to do the photos and I showed him how to do the exercises. To his credit, he worked hard and for a guy that had never used kettlebells before, he did very well. He was very impressed with the kettlebells as were the M&F editors.
The model had to demo every exercise with the 70s and definitely earned his money that day. They wanted him to use 53lb bells to make it easier on him, but having a guy with 21 inch arms using a 53lb bell looked ridiculous. Especially, in an article on how to get bigger and stronger with kettlebells. Thus, with a little creativity, we were able to get him in positions to do the exercises without him really having to do them. It worked out well and the photos looked solid.
I will post when the issue comes out, but so far it is scheduled for August.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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Pheado: June 08 2005
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strength not size
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Strength not size.
I have been Olympic lifting with good success and now I’m starting with Kettlebells for strength endurance mostly.
My question is how do I go about gaining strength endurance without the size? Should I use only to high rep sets? Or does doing multiple high rep sets not add size?
I have all of Pavel’s books so feel free to refer to any of them.
thanks
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Mike Mahler: June 08 2005
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worrying about putting on too much size is like worrying about making too much money or having too many beautiful women give you their phone numbers. Translation? It is not something to worry about for most people, especially if you are training with kettlebells. You have to handle the big kettlebells (70-88s) and eat a ton to pack on size and that takes a lot of effort. Even then without careful planning it is not going to happen.
Feel free to do heavy sets, high rep sets, whatever and just keep your caloric intake the same. If your main goal is strength endurance, then do a mix of high rep sets and high volume low rep sets with short breaks.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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mettleman: June 09 2005
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What is HOC? Is there a link to an article? N/M
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Mike Mahler: June 09 2005
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To summarize it is a variation of roadwork (A form of training that boxers do in which you combine aerobic work with calisthenics, sparring etc). With HOC you combine aerobic exercise (both low and high intensity such as jogging (low) heavy bag work (high) with ballistic strength training (dumbbell or kettlebell swings, snatches, jerks, cleans etc)
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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JohnBrowning: June 10 2005
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Pavel or Mik Mahler I have an idea !!!!????!!!!!
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How about you guys set up a training program online in a formal form. Set up a routine that is a plug and jug finished program. It would not be some lame routnine like you see int pages of a BB magazine. The goal would be to get a person that owns a KB and the RKC book or video prepared to enter the KB Nationals and do well. If any one was ever a runner you have seen the Marathon Running programs that basicly lay it out so that anyone with either no running experince or a recrational runner can get ready for their first marathon.All the work has been figured out in advance and builds slowly so that even a raw begginer can follow it and do well. I think this would spur a lot of interest in the competitions and RKC certification seminars etc..........
I normaly would not even think about training for the long cycle but if such a program was spelled out and thourogh and slowly built over time I would actualy give it my best. I think the key is starting out at a low enough level that even someone that just yanked their KB out of the carboard can begin it and follow along!!!!
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Mike Mahler: June 10 2005
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Steve Cotter and or Rob Lawrence would be the best choices for that. Also, I would venture to say that most people who train with kettlebells are not interested in GS or the RKC cert but just an efficient way to get in solid shape.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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eric_alan: June 14 2005
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Question on hypertrophy training with Kbells...
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I've been training with kbells for over a year and a half now with great results. Up till now I've been primarily training for strength/endurance and body comp control.(lots of circuits, with primarily one KB) They've more than done the trick. I was checking out Mike Mahler's article's on building size and strength with kbells and thought I'd give it a whirl. I was going to start on the 5x5 protocol with dual 1.5 pood bells. My problem is I've found handling two of those to be alot harder than the one I am used to. I can easily do one arm MP with the 1.5 for reps...two of them is a different story. My point is, I can't do 5x5 reps with doubles at this point. I currently have a single 1 pood and 2 1.5 pood bells available as well as adjustable dumbells. How would you guys recommend working up to the 5x5 being that I can't adjust the weight of the kbells? Should I start with my dumbells (which are adjustable) or perhaps partial reps with the bells? Any input is appreciated.
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Mike Mahler: June 14 2005
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Brad's advice is sound. Start with 5x2, then move up to 5x3 etc. Or do 2x5 and when that gets comfortable, move up to 3x5 etc. Finally, do 1x5, 1x4, 1x3, 1x2, 1x1 in one workout. You get the idea. Start with what you can do and build from there.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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Steve Cotter: June 14 2005
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Great Seminar, and great honor
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I had the privilege today of conducting a 2 hr. seminar for Sifu Richard Bustillo's International Martial Arts Boxing Academy. His academy in L.A. is hosting a week long Instructor Conference, and I was invited to teach S&C for MA via KBs and Full KOntact methods.
For those of you that don't know Sifu Bustillo, he was one of Bruce Lee's original students, and is world-renown and respected in the MA community.
It is an honor to be included among this impressive lineup of MA luminaries, including--
Doce Pares Eskrido- GM Cacoy Canete
"Judo" Gene LeBell
Sombo, Gokor Chivichiyan
Kickboxing, Kathy Long *
Juijitsu, Fabio Vinelli
Trainer/Boxing, Freddie Roach & Brian Viloria (The Hawaiian Punch)
Weapons, Ted Tabura
Muay Thai, Walt "Sleeper" Michelowski *
Kali, Linsey Largusa
Security/Multi Attack, Mo Teague
Edge Weapon, Johan Skalburg
Animal Gung Fu, Michael Matsuda
Judo, Phil Porter
Jeet Kune Do, Richard Bustillo
Those of you that are in the MA will recognize many of these folks.
The seminar was very well received and was a great networking opportunity as well. It also reinforced the idea of KB training as the "Martial Art of Strength Training"
Sifu Bustillo, like all the great ones, was very cordial, humble, and gracious. I was quite surprised when he presented me with an Honorable Instructor certificate in the IMB system (and I got the shirt, too!)
Not a bad day!
So, the lesson is that, for those of you that teach KB training, find the top MA schools in your area. They are almost always receptive to the obvious benefits that KB training adds to their craft.
Special thanks to Mike Mahler for the referral.
Steve
http://www.fullkontact.com
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Mike Mahler: June 14 2005
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Looks like you had a great time and I am not surprised that Richard and the students were impressed with your presenatation. Looks like a big step forward for kettlebells in the MA community!
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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Pheado: June 14 2005
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K-Bells and Size
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Hey Guys,
I'm new to K-bells and would like to increase my endurance without gaining any size. How would I go about increasing strength endurance without adding any size?
thanks.
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Mike Mahler: June 14 2005
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For strength and some size with cutting bodyfat, try a high volume strength program (EDT-10x3 etc) and reduce keep calories in check. Emphasize protein and healthy fats and get all carbs from veggies and low glycemic fruits.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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JJJJ: June 14 2005
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Catching the KB on the shoulder
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One final observation as a new guy learning to Clean the 16 kg KB . . .
I find that sometimes, the KB hits my shoulder first before settling into the "pocket" created by my bent arm (forearm is straight, elbow is against waist, knees are bent and I'm catching it like a water balloon, dipping as it lands.)
I find that I can take the smack on the shoulder with no problem since I'm dipping to slow the momentum. But of course . . . I'm only doing 8-10 reps.
Just wondering (again) if this is good form or if I'm doing something wrong.
Thank you
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Mike Mahler: June 14 2005
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a common mistake that trainnes make with kettlebell cleans is using to much upper body power, Drive through with the hips and let the momentum from your lower body take the bell to the rack. The clean is a subtle move that requires just the right amount of energy to get the job done. Not enough and it becomes a curl, too much and you get banged up.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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JJJJ: June 14 2005
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Catching the KB on the shoulder
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One final observation as a new guy learning to Clean the 16 kg KB . . .
I find that sometimes, the KB hits my shoulder first before settling into the "pocket" created by my bent arm (forearm is straight, elbow is against waist, knees are bent and I'm catching it like a water balloon, dipping as it lands.)
I find that I can take the smack on the shoulder with no problem since I'm dipping to slow the momentum. But of course . . . I'm only doing 8-10 reps.
Just wondering (again) if this is good form or if I'm doing something wrong.
Thank you
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Mike Mahler: June 14 2005
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Make the transition earlier and focus on getting your hand around the bell rather than letting the bell flip over and smack you. AS the bell passes waist level, imagine that you are doing an upper cut and get your hand around the bell. Make a fist at the top to get the bell in line with you.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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CubsWS: June 15 2005
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Mike Mahler's article on starting to train with the 88lb KB
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Anyone applied Mike's article "Taming the Bulldog" while still being far away from doing the standard KB exercises with the 88lb KB? What have been the results? I got inspired by it and am considering ordering the 2.5 pood and doing what Mike suggests. I currently own only one 36lb KB and am a relative beginner. However, I see the wisdom and benefits (physical and psychological) in learning to handle the 2.5 pood in the ways Mike recommends before one is ready for the standard KB exercises with that KB.
Here's the link to the article: http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/301/
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Mike Mahler: June 15 2005
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Thanks for your praise on the article. However, attempting to go from a 35lb bell to an 88lb bell is crazy. That is way too big a jump. Somone that has an easy time with a 2 53lb bells and I stress the word easy, can follow the program and even that person would be smart to have some 70lb work in his or her program. I would recommend that you get proficient with 2 53lb bells and go from there.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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Dragonvash: June 15 2005
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GTG
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When doing GTG, how often is everyone doing it? Personally, I'm doing it at the top of every hour. One hour I do calve raises and fingertip push ups and the next hour I do one-arm pushups and pistols. I'm keeping the numbers low except for the calve raises, yet I seem to be getting burned out.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith
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Mike Mahler: June 16 2005
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I would limit your GTG sets to 5 total per day. Leave an hour between each set. Do the Calf raises and pushups together (a few minutes break between each drill) Add one set per week for three weeks and then cycle back down to five again. Do GTG 5x per week.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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Steve Cotter: June 16 2005
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Tremendous workshop--Ginastica Natural
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Yesterday I got to be the teacher, today I got to be the student.
Had the pleasure of meeting Professor Alvaro Romano this evening, dicuss movement and movement principles, and then a class with him.
Prof. Romano is the creator of the ginastica natural, which is a form of moving meditation based on movements of primitive man and animals.
It was a great class, tremendous workout requiring precise body control and breath control. It's all in the hips, and as such is an ideal compliment to jiu-jitsu, or really any sport.
Prof. is 50 years old. A 20 year old should be so 50!
He is lean, flexible, vital and athletic. Just the way it should be at 50, but unfortuneately is very rare (of course, we have the other 50+ fountain of youth, Steve Maxwell here) anymore.
Many of the movements are very similar to some of the Chinese gong fu based movement systems, and being in the class brought back fond memories of good, clean hard work.
I'll be discussing Prof. Romano's fascinating movement system in more depth in an upcoming Full KOntact Newsletter.
Steve Cotter
http://www.fullkontact.com
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Mike Mahler: June 16 2005
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Have you seen the movie "Choke"? There is a scene in which Rickson is training on the beach and if I am not mistaken is doing Ginastica Natural exercises. Sounds pretty cool!
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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fhriley: June 16 2005
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HOC *and* strength building?
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Is it possible to do HOC and continue doing strength building at the same time (such as PTP or RKC)? I'm mainly interested in getting as strong as possible, but even though I'm doing RKC and PTP, I'm beginning to put on some fat, and I'm just overall not satisfied with my level of conditioning. I want to add HOC to my training, but I'm concerned that I won't be able to continue to build strength if I'm worn out from it. I know Mike says in his article to just do HOC once per week in this circumstance, but is that really enough to burn off the fat and increase my level of conditioning?
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Mike Mahler: June 16 2005
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First, read David's post and check your diet. Next, why not throw in some high kettlebell work as a finisher at each strenth workout? For example, end each strength session with 30 swings left and right or 20 clean and jerks etc, 20 snatches l,r etc. Try doing that first and modify your diet.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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JonZ: June 20 2005
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Bent/Side Press, how to train for them???
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I tried some bent presses today, and to be honest the KB wasn't going anywhere. I'm not having to much trouble with other lifts now, for instance: snatch, C&J, military presses, cleans, jerks, and so on. But, I got in position to do a bent press and it was like I was pushing against a brick wall.
Are there specific movements that enhance the bent and side presses? I am not real flexible yet, that might be an issue.
Thanks,
Jon
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Mike Mahler: June 20 2005
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I would master the windmill first, then move on to the side press and then the bent press. The bent press requires the most amount of concentration and patience.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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God-glorified: June 21 2005
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5x5 really the way to go?
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Hey guys,
If the 5x5 exercise reps and sets is really the way to go for building muscle.....than why are there so many different reccommendations in the STrong as you look series of (Beyond Bodybuilding)
Reccommended sets and reps.
Vary from 3x6 to 2x4 and so on
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Mike Mahler: June 21 2005
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and expect to continue to make progress. No program works forever and there is no best program. Is 5x5 right for you? Depends on what you have been doing and where you are in your training cycle. It is a good idea to change some training variables every 4 weeks.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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Savage: June 21 2005
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Question on previous 5x5 post?
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When you can do 5x5 at a given weight where do you add the additional weight? Do you add say 5 lbs and start over and try to achieve 5x5 again and only achieve 3 or 4 reps on the last sets or do you add 5 lbs and do say three or four sets of 5 and remove the five lbs so you can continue to get 5 reps on the fifth set?
Thanks
Andy
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Mike Mahler: June 21 2005
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Yes, increase the weight when you can do 5x5 with the same weight. Then work on doing 5x5 again with the same weight. Your first workout with a heavier weight may look like this
Set 1: 5 reps.
Set 2: 5 reps
Set 3: 4 reps
Set 4: 3 reps
Set 5: 2 reps
No problem, just work on getting sets 3-5 up to 5 reps before you increase the weight again.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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Lani: June 21 2005
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swimming
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I have my KB's and the "femme fatale" book. After school starts, I am going to begin swimming with a local masters team. (It's been a LONG time since I swam laps...)
From what I know, the KB workout will be terrific for every muscle used in swimming except maybe the lat's. I hope I've got the muscle group named right, but they are the ones you use when you pull your arms down, and there is a lot of pulling in swimming.
What can I do to strengthen this particular area (in addition to everything else)?
Lani
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Mike Mahler: June 21 2005
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Here are a few:
One-arm rows, double rows, alternating kb rows, Renegade Rows etc. All of these exercises work the lats. Also the bent press while not a pulling exercise is also a tremendous lat builder when done properly.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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Steve790: June 21 2005
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Help for a newcomer to kb's
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I just started using kettlebells after hearing about them and doing some research. During my workout I noticed that the kettlebell was hitting the top of my forearm, right below the wrist, on my cleans and some of my snatches. Now today, I noticed that same area was a little sore when attempting the cleans today and were slightly (not even noticeable) swollen. I was wondering if there is something wrong in my technique that could help fix the problem. I was thinking about maybe holding the kb tighter, but I wasn't sure. Any help would be appreciated
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Mike Mahler: June 21 2005
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You have to get your hand around the kettlebell ar the right time to avoid the banging into the forearm. If you keep a tight grip the entire time, your grip will wear out fast and you will still bang up your forearm.
On cleans as the bell passes waist level, imagine that you are doing an upper cut and open your hand to get around the kettlebell handle and then close your hand immediately making a fist at the top of the movement. On snatches as the bell passes head level, open your hand get it around the bell handle and punch through at the top.
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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God-glorified: June 21 2005
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KB's and dumbells
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Hey Guys,
As of right now I cannot afford KB's (though I know it is the best) is it possible to alternate them with dumbells and get maybe the same results......if so, what dvd/program would you reccommend that could go along with dumbells rather than conatain excersies strictly for KB's.
Maybe Mike Mahler?
Pavel?
Thanks for any input
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Mike Mahler: June 21 2005
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You can do just about all of the exercises on my DVD with dumbbells. The only one's that you will have trouble with is the front squat, double swing, and double snatch. They can all be done with dumbbells, but will not be as efficient (hard to swing two big dumbbells with a pronated drip)and on Front Squats it will be hard to hold two dumbbells in the rack position.
Regardless, Resistance is resistance and you will get good results with dumbbells. You will not get as much forearm development and you will have a harder time getting into a good groove on ballistic exercises and Front Squats.
http://www.mikemahler.com
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JonZ: June 22 2005
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Clubbells, anyone use them???
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I just came across clubbells this afternoon while perusing the web. The anyone facilitate their workouts with them? And if so, have you found that they are worth the time?
Jon
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Mike Mahler: June 22 2005
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I like using clubbells as a supplement to my training and like the shoulder rotational drills and ballistic moves such as double swipes. See my artilce at my site for more info at:
http://www.mikemahler.com/store/
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Rayshore: June 24 2005
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Please critique EDT program
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All right, I have nothing but my 2 1.5poods for the summer to work with (I can't get to a gym), so I figured that I would go through the last weeks of June, and part of July, on a Mahler style EDT program. I've had the Kettlebell Solution DVD and PDF file for a while; figured now was as good a time as any to use them.
Here it is:
Day One:
PR Zone 15 min:
A-1 Double Military Press
A-2 Bent Over Row
Rest 5 minutes
PR Zone 15 min:
B-1 Alternating Floor Press
B-2 Renegade Row
Day Two:
PR Zone 20 min:
A-1 1.5pood KB Pistol
A-2 Double Swings
Perform Day One and Day Two on alternate days. Perform exactly 3 EDT workouts per week.
Specific and Measurable Goals? Increase overall strength (No. Qualitative, but still a goal). Perform 10 Double MP with the 1.5poods in one set. Perform 3 KB Pistols in one set with each leg.
Attainable? Yes, I believe so. Current maxes: 6 Double MP; 1 KB Pistol with each leg.
Relevant? Yes. This will allow me to wield both 1.5pood 'bells much more easily.
Time Frame? Accomplish performance goals by July 10th.
I'm already about a week into this, so I was just wondering if there was anything that needed tweaking. I plan to include Turkish Get-Ups at the end of Day One and Double Windmills at the end of Day Two staring next week, probably 2 sets of 5, maybe 3 sets if I can squeeze them in. Once I wrap up this EDT cycle, I'm going to focus on nothing but Turkish Get Ups and the Secret Service Snatch Test for a few weeks using Ethan Reeves Density Training Protocol that he posted here a while back. Despite the fact that I get at least eight hours of sleep a night, I still need (and like) my workouts short and intense, so I really like EDT for that.
Any tips/comments would be appreciated.
-Eric
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Mike Mahler: June 24 2005
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On the Leg day, I would do double Front Squats instead. To keep pistols in the program do 3x5 before the PR zone and then do the PR zone with double Front Squats and Double Swings. With EDT, fatigue builds up fast and your stabilizers that you need for One legged squats will be go quickly.
Good luck with the program and let me know how it works for you
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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jonmcclain: June 26 2005
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question for Mike Mahler on Agressive Strength newsletter 47
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Here you discussed some westside applications to overhead pressing, I was curious if you could elaborate on this a little more, like what a typical week would look like? I "get" the philosophy behind it, I'm just a little foggy on the structuring of each workout, like how DE and ME days are arranged. Thanks.
http://www.birthdaychallenge.com
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Mike Mahler: June 27 2005
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Louie was nice enouh to write up that section of the newsletter and can answer your questions better than I can. Go to the website below to contact him and get his "special strength" DVD while you are there. It is outstanding.
http://www.westside-barbell.com
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franzsnideman: June 28 2005
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Mahler's DVD
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I just finished wathcing the Mike Mahler's DVD on Kettlebells solution for size and strength. AMAZING! Mike has motivated me to achieve a much higher level in my own KB training as well as with my clients. My wife and I also had the opportunity to attend one of Mike's one day KB seminars in Los Angeles two weeks ago and its effect on our training has been outstanding. Both my wife and myself are setting new records in our KB lifts and the results are contagious - all our clients are feeding of our new energy and they too are hitting new PR's. Mike's teaching just gets you stronger, period! His DVD will inspire you to take a much more aggresive yet INTELLIGENT approach to your training. If you have not seen this DVD - you have no idea what you are missing. Great Work Mike - thanks for putting out such a cutting edge - no nonsense product.
Franz Snideman RKC, CHEK
Yoana Snideman (PT - physical therapist)
www.revolutionlajolla.com
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Mike Mahler: June 28 2005
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Thanks for the review and glad that you and Yoana liked the DVD. It was great to see you two at the seminar. The group really benefited from your tips and excellent instruction!
Mike Mahler
http://www.mikemahler.com
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