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WildernessWarrior: December 01 2005 

Some thoughts about the last TSC… 

I was looking over the last TSC numbers and thinking about the event. I compared everyone’s numbers to there BW. Mike Hanley the winner of the Men’s division weighed in at 173lbs, His numbers were DL 467.5lbs @ 2.7% of BW, 18 pull-ups, Snatched 132 reps equaling 7128lbs and 41xBW. His DL & Snatch were the highest compared to his BW and he did the most pull-ups. Great numbers! However if he weighed as much as the lightest competitor and kept the highest DL & Snatch BW% numbers and the most pull-ups he would have gotten 4’th place. To look at the DL more Justin Qualler (183lbs) DL 1.9xBW@365lbs Steve Pucciarelli (138lbs) DL 2.5xBW@345lbs. Justin got 8’th in DL and Steve got 11’th (he would of gotten 2’nd in DL by BW%). For Justin to get the highest DL number he would have had to DL almost 3.5X his BW. Now lets look at the snatch. We can use Justin & Steve again as an example. Justin snatched 100 that’s 5400lbs@29.5xBW Steve snatched 4428lbs@32xBW. Justin got 9’th place in snatch and Steve got 13’th. So what does this tell us ? Well if you want to do well and win the event it pays to be heaver. The more competitors that you have in competitions that are heavier then you are make it that much harder to win. It pays to be heavier for the DL and the Snatch that’s two out of 3 events. In Training, Samuel A. Jones  

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Rob Lawrence: December 02 2005 

I did the most snatch reps with the heavier weight (95 with 32kg), and I'm just 170 lbs. I don't believe size provides any advantage for the snatch. I still believe that heavier is better for DL, lighter is better for PU, and neither is better for snatch. For the snatch, assuming a certain basic strength level, what matters is conditioning. FWIW, Mike's pullups BECAME MORE VALUABLE because he was heavier. The TSC does favor a poundage range of about 180-210 ... this is hard to deny. No 300lb guy is going to do a lot of pullups, and no 130lb guy is going to pull very much or even do many snatches with 32kg (unless he's Russian). RL 

 

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powerlifter54: December 01 2005 

re: Let's cut the crap on the steroid issue...a different take 

While i neither endorse nor criticize steroid use, except in a drug tested environment, the issue is entirely based, IMHO, on the very strong tendency of our culture to attack anything masculine. Take a breath. Get a Coke. It will get worse. While you get the Coke i will unwrap the foil from under my beanie... On one hand, women can get plastic surgery, take female hormones for youthfull skin or birth control, and can be anything on the scale of extremely feminine to boderline masculinity. Sensitive, new age men, as long as they are skinny and demure, are embraced for their insight, intelligence, and caring. However, if a man displays or pursues classic masculine pursuits, he can quickly become the focus of our cultural scorn. Look at Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi, WPO Powerlifters, Ted Nugent, even President Bush. Bush, politics aside, is critiqued for cutting wood on his ranch and not reading the New York Times. Porqoui? The others have done nothing against their organizations rules, but are vilified for basically being too masculine, too successfull, and enjoying it too much. If a woman can take estrogen, which has known side effects, to improve her quality of life, why can't testosterone be made available to men? I submit it is because our society discourages masculinity. jmo jack  

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Rob Lawrence: December 02 2005 

I don't think that sensitive men have any significant role in our society. Not in the corporate world, not in New York City (hell no, not there!), probably not even at the New York Times. The whole idea that there are Sensitive Men wandering around out there running things and ruining America sounds like something right out of 1978 ... and I don't think it was credible even then. I have never met one such person who was taken seriously by either men or women. Now is there an unconscious anti-masculine conspiracy of sorts floating around out in the world? Maybe. But it mostly consists of a few silly women and eunuchs writing books about how men are unnecessary and competition is evil. When push comes to shove (and shoving becomes necessary), the world is still competitive and masculinity goes a long way. President Bush gets criticized for chopping wood because he gives a lot of evidence of being uninformed and out-of-touch. Equating being ignorant with being macho is someone else's mistake, not one I'm going to repeat. RL  

 

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powerlifter54: December 01 2005 

re: Let's cut the crap on the steroid issue...a different take 

While i neither endorse nor criticize steroid use, except in a drug tested environment, the issue is entirely based, IMHO, on the very strong tendency of our culture to attack anything masculine. Take a breath. Get a Coke. It will get worse. While you get the Coke i will unwrap the foil from under my beanie... On one hand, women can get plastic surgery, take female hormones for youthfull skin or birth control, and can be anything on the scale of extremely feminine to boderline masculinity. Sensitive, new age men, as long as they are skinny and demure, are embraced for their insight, intelligence, and caring. However, if a man displays or pursues classic masculine pursuits, he can quickly become the focus of our cultural scorn. Look at Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi, WPO Powerlifters, Ted Nugent, even President Bush. Bush, politics aside, is critiqued for cutting wood on his ranch and not reading the New York Times. Porqoui? The others have done nothing against their organizations rules, but are vilified for basically being too masculine, too successfull, and enjoying it too much. If a woman can take estrogen, which has known side effects, to improve her quality of life, why can't testosterone be made available to men? I submit it is because our society discourages masculinity. jmo jack  

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Rob Lawrence: December 02 2005 

Not really, of course, the guy practices law in Philadelphia. Sensitivity definitely disqualifies you for that. The media feeds on silly controversies and clashes of image that have nothing to do with reality. From everything I've seen, reality demands that men be men, except for in certain corners of academia. Hell, even NPR is probably cutthroat if you know what's going on behind the scenes. Be well Jack, you're one of the smart/good guys. Rob  

 

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Dano: December 05 2005 

Team PTP?? Info? 

Seriously, I'm a little ignorant on this issue here. Is this an "informal" team set up by comrades from this forum and/or workshops? Do you guys enter specific meets? If there are people in my area or near me and there are competitions I would love to tug on some weights. I won't be competing in Olympic lifting until sometime next spring or summer, maybe even later and I need some competition! Thanks for any info. Dano 

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Rob Lawrence: December 06 2005 

I've been meaning to compliment you on your pulls ... hope you can jump in. See: www.the-tsc.com Next meet is Jan 7th and so far we only have NJ and CA locations. You are free to start your own location if you can swing it ... where do you live? Rob 

 

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Marty RKC: December 06 2005 

Don't train GS anymore but 

5 days ago when called out to prove a Col wrong, demoed Jerks for one minute. Doing somewhat under par in Moscow is an understatement and is neither here nor there. 28 Jerks in 10 minutes when doing doing 35 in 7 was best. Until post Russia, technique needed improvement. (whos didn't) and it always will to some degree. measure a 10 minute Jerk test catered to a one minute through 5 minute Jerk test but I won't start that until feb/mar time frame. Anyways, with no equipment and at the end of a work day did 10 Jerks in one minute rather easily for a demo with no belt. Then proceeded to do it again at another request for 14 in one minute also no equipment(half of 28 in Moscow). Technique has undergone a significant improvement. Anyways its off to deadlifts but there is a plan to do well. Thought about offering a GS seminar(hosting Federenko) but have the audacity to assist or at least host. Thoughts. Public criticism I don't give but don't affront to those who give it esepcially when I ask for it. So give it . BTW, 50 dollars Time: 9:30 through 1:30 Dec 10th Place: 2683 Timberbrooke Place Duluth, GA 30097 Material will include mostly training cycle for powerlifting, GS and TSC(technique). FYI. Marty  

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Rob Lawrence: December 06 2005 

(b) What have you done with Marty? Seriously, I sometimes lapse into the old stream-of-consciousness post myself, but you may want to keep it a little more linear when advertising a seminar. You're plenty qualified to be giving some advice if that's your question. Particularly if you're doing it together with Fedorenko. Rob 

 

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Dano: December 06 2005 

Com. Rob & All Comrades: TSC in Washington? 

Thanks for the reply. I live in Spokane, WA. I know there's some comrades in Seattle so maybe it would be possible to host a TSC somewhere in Washington(if people are interested). I'd have to get to work on the KB snatches(I could probably get 15 reps each arm w/ 32kg bell w/o any training but thats it) and I'd have to get back on the pull-up bar. The deads wouldn't be a problem. Thanks again, Dano 

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Rob Lawrence: December 06 2005 

Also, brush up on the KB 5:00 snatch rules and test yourself -- I'm sure you could score quite high based on strength alone, and you have about a month to get some conditioning for the event as well. Remember, it is not a GS snatch event -- there are similarities but also serious differences. Thanks for jumping in, that is the attitude we like to see! Rob 

 

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Mike Hanley: December 09 2005 

Tom Phillips, does that TSC challenge go out to senior instructors too? 

I was just curious if the TSC challenge you wrote about a few pages back goes out to senior instructors as well. I have noticed that there are only a few(cotter,lawrence,jones) that actually partake in the fun of friendly competition. These guys have consistently competed whether it be in the TSC or GS. I commend them for that. It would be great to see more participation from the guys who are looked at in high regard and are considered the cream of the crop. If the challenge does not include them I would like to personally invite them to participate on january 7th. It is a great event for all. I had so much fun last TSC. It was pure energy throughout the room with guys like Even-Esh screaming words of encouragement at the same person he was competing against. I am getting chills as I think about that day in September and am getting more excited for the one coming up. Competition IS what keeps me moving foward. Competition has molded my life from an early age and I am grateful to have learned the art of competition at an early age. 

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Rob Lawrence: December 09 2005 

Not by me this time around, but there are guys who should be able to do it, and perhaps me in a year's time. The TSC is fun and is a great test. If you can make a good showing in all the events, you are strong and fit, and you don't need 100% specialization to do it. I think we'll get more and more people, maybe even some other senior instructors, as time goes on. Not Brett Jones though, I heard his routine now consists exclusively of "doubles for cardio" ... ;) Rob 

 

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dorpol: December 11 2005 

Whats up with Coach Glassman? 

I always thought that there was alot of crossover between the guys here at Dragondoor and the guys at crossfit. It appears now in a recent thread about SF selection at crossfit that Coach Glassman has resorted to personnal insults. Check out what he calls Nate Morrison. I wonder what combat and SF experience Glassman has to start dishing out these type of unfounded insults. http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/21/16823.html 

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Rob Lawrence: December 12 2005 

1. I read about para-rescue school in the book "The Perfect Storm" a couple of months ago ... my respect for anyone who has made it through (including Nate) instantly shot up about 3,000% ... 2. Guys who seek out special physical training before beginning the school are clearly more highly motivated than the average candidate ... therefore I don't think a 100% pass rate really proves anything about CrossFit either way. You can't have an experiment without a control group. As for fitness politics ... WHAT A GODDAMNED BORE IT ALL IS! Rob 

 

Question

dorpol: December 14 2005 

A Lesson learnt 

I've recently being using the crossfit WODS as it seems this is the program of choice for people in my line of work (LEO). My problem came when doing high rep deadlifts as part of a WOD. I injured my back! so to the chiropractors I went. He scoulded me for doing high reps and said exercises like the deadlift are safer trained low reps for strength. Has anyone else had this type of problem?Lesson learnt. When I'm better I will stick to 3 to 5 reps PTP style, and high rep KB ballistics, never got hurt doing that and I'm sure I can get as fit as if I was doing the WOD. 

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Rob Lawrence: December 14 2005 

I think they're fine. It takes discipline but it's possible to do a whole set with a straight back and good form, especially if you have the correct flexibility. In my opinion and experience 3-5 DLs with a weight you can handle for just 3-5 reps are more dangerous than high-rep DLs. I do either singles or 20 reps and I swear by both. Rob 

 

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Will S: December 15 2005 

Couple of Questions about Rob Lawrence's Snatch prep::: 

Couple of Posts Down: "which was 3x week practice with DAY 1 80% RM, 40% RM DAY 2 60% RM, 60% RM DAY 3 70% RM, 50% RM Do this for 2 weeks , then take a couple days off - test your max then apply your percentages to your new max and repeat." Questions: 1. Do you have no rest between sets? If not, Suggested time? 2. Can you do other work on the same day? Or simply as above only? 3. Can you do other work inbetween the Days? Im a stickler for working 5-6 days a week. I feel Lazy otherwise. Thanks! Will S 

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Rob Lawrence: December 15 2005 

I suggest resting 1-2 minutes. The idea is to build your cardio and your grip over time, without the fatigue of a max set. Hence you do "120%" every day, but with just a little rest thrown in. Yes, OK to do other work on that day. Put the snatches last. Yes, OK to do more work. You could even do this workout 5x a week in my opinion. Rob 

 

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HereBeADragon: December 30 2005 

Bad experiences with martial arts schools and warning signs of being in one. 

We have so many bad gym thread I think its about time we take a look at the lighter side of dojos. What are some of the mulletesk experiences you've had with a dojo? What signs have you learned to recognize as a red light telling you to get the hell outta there? Here's a few good ones I learned from my first teacher (worst teacher too) If he's reading a lecture about the art he is teaching you off a paper he printed off the internet. Thats a warning sign. If you look through his martial arts book and 90% of the book is highlighted yup another sign that something isnt right. If he always seems to have something to do when you ask him about his teachers. RUN FOR THE DOOR! Those are a few I've learned to watch out for. 

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Rob Lawrence: December 30 2005 

American dojos tend to mystify everything that they believe is traditional and/or Asian. If they saw the Japanese master or whoever do it one time, they assume it is great, perfect and wonderful for all people at all places and times. Absolute nonsense of course. If you see excess reverence toward any person, object, or training drill, I say take your cue and leave. It is way better to have open discussion and know why you are doing what you're doing. Even if the person teaching you is great at what they do, if they can't explain or teach it you're never going to achieve their level. One last point: beware of anyone resembling Rex Kwan Do from Napoleon Dynamite. RL 

 

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